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Into the Wardrobe A Community of Wardrobians 2010-07-31T18:35:07+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/feed.php?f=55&t=10130 2010-07-31T18:35:07+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206188#p206188 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]> That same remark struck me "Do you want us to catch our death?" I think they were more likely to catch on to their death and being (as many of them are) in denial of their circumstances they would recoil from that.

Statistics: Posted by paminala — 31 Jul 2010, 18:35


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2010-07-31T17:46:22+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206186#p206186 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]>
maralewisfan wrote:
Matthew,
That makes sense to me on who "They" are. Did anyone else find it interesting that when the window was put down someone told the narrator "Do you want us to catch our death of cold?" Since they are already dead this comment was interesting to me.


Since the ghosts are unable to make houses that keep out the rain, when they do finally make it into the bus they are for the first time (since being sent to Grey Town) inside a structure that can keep out both the rain and the wind. Maybe that is why they are so upset about the window being opened.

That comment was also interesting to me and very funny!

Statistics: Posted by Matthew Whaley — 31 Jul 2010, 17:46


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2010-07-25T21:56:55+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206123#p206123 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]>
"Ah TSL. so masculine in outlook the birth from a hand is no jar; the faults that mar a man disconnectedly jarring with the helplessness of a newborn. At least, I see a baby, blamed for not making a decision and getting up, like a man; I think he did not."

is a comprehensive put down of CSL, TSE, a familiar compound poet, or just my reference to Animula, I really don't think I should comment.

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2010-07-25T17:41:23+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206120#p206120 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]>
agingjb wrote:
I suppose, since CSL was not a fan of T.S.Eliot's poetry, the lines from Animula:

"Issues from the hand of time the simple soul
Irresolute and selfish, misshapen, lame,
Unable to fare forward or retreat,
Fearing the warm reality, the offered good,"


are not relevant.


CSL may not have been a fan of TSE, but that does not mean that what TSE wrote was not well known to Lewis and indeed could very well have had an influence on The Great Divorce. I love TSE's poetry, so please don't hesitate to post anything by anyone that might shed light on our discussion of this book, Agingjb. The above stanza you posted is very relevant and helps describe and explain the prevailing attitude of the inhabitants of Grey Town.

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2010-07-14T17:13:56+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206014#p206014 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]>
cyranorox wrote:
Ah TSL. so masculine in outlook the birth from a hand is no jar; the faults that mar a man disconnectedly jarring with the helplessness of a newborn. At least, I see a baby, blamed for not making a decision and getting up, like a man; I think he did not.


I admit to a failure to understand this. Perhaps it will be best if I say no more.

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2010-07-14T15:25:42+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=206013#p206013 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]> TSL TSE! [phonetics and acronyms don't mix]. so masculine in outlook the birth from a hand is no jar; the faults that mar a man disconnectedly jarring with the helplessness of a newborn. At least, I see a baby, blamed for not making a decision and getting up, like a man; I think he did not.

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2010-07-13T08:54:46+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=205997#p205997 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]>
Blake, perhaps, is part of the allusion of the distorted faces:

"And mark in every face I meet, Marks of weakness, marks of woe."

I suppose, since CSL was not a fan of T.S.Eliot's poetry, the lines from Animula:

"Issues from the hand of time the simple soul
Irresolute and selfish, misshapen, lame,
Unable to fare forward or retreat,
Fearing the warm reality, the offered good,"


are not relevant.

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2010-07-12T14:58:03+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=205989#p205989 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]> That makes sense to me on who "They" are. Did anyone else find it interesting that when the window was put down someone told the narrator "Do you want us to catch our death of cold?" Since they are already dead this comment was interesting to me.

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2010-07-10T23:39:51+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=205966#p205966 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]> Statistics: Posted by Matthew Whaley — 10 Jul 2010, 23:39


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2010-07-10T23:39:51+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10130&p=205965#p205965 <![CDATA[Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride]]> Screwtape Proposes a Toast where Screwtape says;

But it would be vain to deny that the human souls on whose anguish we have been feasting tonight were a pretty poor quality. Not all the most skillful cookery of our tormentors could make them better than insipid. Oh, to get one's teeth again into a Farinata, a Henry VIII or even a Hitler! There was real crackling there; something to crunch; a rage, an egoism, a cruelty only just less robust than our own.
Maybe the Intelligent Man believes that a some point he and the rest of the shades will become food for the demons when purgatory does finally become hell.

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