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Lewis angels vs. Peretti angels

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Lewis angels vs. Peretti angels

Postby BeeLayne » May 26th, 2006, 3:07 pm

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Postby A#minor » May 26th, 2006, 4:32 pm

I think perhaps the real thing is somewhere in between Lewis' and Perritti's versions of angels.
My favorite quote of Lewis' is where he says that when we die, we'll look about us at our guardian angels and they will be so familiar that we'll know them, we'll say "Oh, it was you all the time watching over me!"
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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » May 27th, 2006, 1:19 am

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Postby The Pfifltrigg » May 27th, 2006, 2:19 am

I don't think I ever broke it down like that. They're both fiction (good fiction!) and I have wondered, when I read each, about the relation of the depictions to reality. But I don't think I read them close enough together to much compare the two. My guess is, they would be to each other sorta like Peretti's and to us something like Lewis' eldili and something like (has anyone else read this?) the "Platonic Manifestations" in Charles Williams' Place of the Lion. Almost completely other to us, in their natural form. Remember the creatures in Revelation with eyes all over? Did anyone else try as a kid to figure what seeing was like for them?
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Postby BeeLayne » May 27th, 2006, 2:38 am

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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » May 27th, 2006, 3:46 am

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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » May 27th, 2006, 4:34 pm

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Postby WolfVanZandt » May 27th, 2006, 4:57 pm

Warrior, why do you believe that angels aren't fallible anymore?

Messanger, I have no issue with the idea yet, I just would like to know your basis for why you believe it.

I don't mean "ghost" either. I mean bodiless beings. I have some reason to believe that angels do have bodies (different from ours, certainly, but bodies none the less).
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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » May 27th, 2006, 7:19 pm

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Postby Summer » May 27th, 2006, 9:58 pm

I always liked the concept in Flatland, where a two-dimensional shape from a two-dimensional world was visited by sphere. He saw it, of course, as a circle, just a strange one that could change size (by moving through the two-dimensional plane). Later, the sphere took him to a three-dimensional space, and the shape (a square, I believe), saw the real sphere, but had a difficult time relating. When it was in front of his eyes, it made sense, but back in Flatland, it didn't make so much sense. Plus, he couldn't explain it to anyone else very well. A sphere is like many circles piled on top of each other, but in Flatland, piling circles on top of each other would give you a chain of circles, not a sphere.

Err...what was I saying? Oh, right! I think that when angels interact with us in our "plane", we see a human representation of them...the part of them that intersects with our world. When prophets saw, in vision, angels in their own "planes", it was really hard to describe. You end up with eyes all around, and wheels in wheels that are all turning.

Anyway, I recommend Flatland.
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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » May 28th, 2006, 1:36 am

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Postby BeeLayne » May 28th, 2006, 3:45 am

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