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If made into movies....

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Postby Bill » 05 Nov 2007, 22:07

ransomed wrote:Believe it or not, the above discussion has been a great help!
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Postby Biff » 20 Nov 2007, 02:52

I personally hope that they don't make them into a movie...
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Postby moordarjeeling » 22 Nov 2007, 06:34

Some time after writing PERELANDRA, Lewis said that since OOTSP he had 'learned better' and had his hero carried to Perelandra by angels rather than in a spaceship. Presumably angels could carry him to some far solar system beyond our telescopes, where a planet like Perelandra could still be placed. I'm not sure how the villains could get to a Malacandra set so far away, but now we know they couldn't have got to Mars in a homemade spaceship either; maybe today they could use some sort of teleportation portal (they could be quantum physicists).

A different solar system would lose a lot of the medieval and classic details, but it might be worth it to make the basic idea more believable: a sunlit unfallen universe outside our own corrupted area (even if it's our whole solar system that's corrupted, sterile).
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Postby Erekose » 25 Nov 2007, 21:00

IF.. and I stress IF... someone wanted to make a film, and retain the original descriptions of what the Solar System was like, without causing an uproar amongst the unimaginative blinkered pedantics (yes.. I know I'm a pandentic.. but from the other side of the mirror), there is a way.

It would involve a.. revision.. to the story, but a minor one, making the Space Trilogy a "story within a story".

The tale could be told as from a third party, who had been lucky enough to learn of the events from those close to Ransom, (akin to the way the "John Carter of Mars" stories are told)

This Third party would have travelled by some means to a Universe parallel to our own. Earth Conditions almost identical (for the year they were set obviously), but the planets surface conditions different.

hmmm hold on... would the idea of a person travel from one "universe" to another go against the spirit of Lewis' writings? Maybe not a good idea after all :wink:
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Postby archenland_knight » 05 Aug 2008, 18:09

I believe the earlier reference to "Journey to the Center of The Earth" is appropriate as far as the science (or lack thereof) goes. We all know there's nothing living at the center of the earth. But come on ... it's a movie!!! (No, I haven't seen it. ) Just go along with it. I think the same principle would apply to Lewis' ST work.

So, I think OoTSP and Perelandra would work well as movies for the most part.

However, the um ... dress code ... of Perlandra could present a problem. It's vital to the story. It communicates the idea of an unfallen humanity; one as yet untainted by sin. To take it out is to remove a large element of the story. To leave it in presents obvious issues.

Don't know how you'd get around that.
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Postby Stanley Anderson » 05 Aug 2008, 18:22

archenland_knight wrote:However, the um ... dress code ... of Perlandra could present a problem. It's vital to the story. It communicates the idea of an unfallen humanity; one as yet untainted by sin. To take it out is to remove a large element of the story. To leave it in presents obvious issues.

Don't know how you'd get around that.


Maybe they could go the Austin Powers route (thinking of the honeymoon scene where things keep "getting in the way" :-)

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Postby The Pfifltrigg » 14 Oct 2008, 15:17

"Is that a bubble-tree you're standing behind, Doctor Ransom, or are you just happy to see me?" :lol:

Of course the Green Lady's nakedness is more central to the plot than Ransom's is: his clearly identifies him with the Lady, morally, but a case might be made for a faithful (in sense and meaning, if not in detail) adaptation with him deliberately clothed. But a great number of careful camera angles and well-timed dragons and piebalds will be necessary, I think. And give her a green Lauren Bacall Wig a la The Big Sleep to keep her from looking like Miz Jolie in Beo-whurck.
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Postby Les Nordman » 11 Nov 2008, 01:15

Erekose wrote:IF.. and I stress IF... someone wanted to make a film, and retain the original descriptions of what the Solar System was like, without causing an uproar amongst the unimaginative blinkered pedantics (yes.. I know I'm a pandentic.. but from the other side of the mirror), there is a way.

It would involve a.. revision.. to the story, but a minor one . . .

Another way to slightly change the stories to let them be consistent with today's science is through the planets' rulers.

Malacandra's Oyarsa could "unmake" everything he has made and return it to Maleldil (as he said he would) before the next time men from Thulcandra come--of course, that would result in the waste state of the planet when the first unmanned probes visit in the 1960's.

Perelandra's Tor and Tinidril could command their Oyarsa to hide Perelandra. So, when the various probes arrive, the Oyarsa puts them in little bubble with their own little environments: 800 degrees Fahrenheit and pressure equal to Tellus' ocean bottom. Radar shows one big mountain on Venus, just like Lewis' Perelandra. Also, radar does not show water.

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Postby rusmeister » 11 Nov 2008, 02:12

Regarding the nudity problem, they could release it for DVD-only with two versions - kind of like what they did with films like X-Men 3 - a "fallen" version" and an "unfallen version". The former has it airbrushed out, etc and is on the main menu. The other is a secret option (Join the Brotherhood!), but you have to do something that only a Christian would likely recognize/know...

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Re: If made into movies....

Postby CSLFAN » 15 Mar 2010, 13:48

I read the Space Trilogy a few months ago and also found myself trying to visualize what they'd be like in films. While I am a stickler for accuracy in book-based films, I also would like to see a little "real world accuracy" as well. Here are the ideas I came up with.

For "Out of the Silent Planet", a neat scene would be Weston's ship (maybe with sail-like panels to harness the "Weston rays", aka solar radiation) flying into the Martian atmosphere, a nice panning shot of the planet's rock, dusty surface, and then follow the ship down into a misty valley where the rock becomes green, the vegetation purple, and basically follow the rest of the description from the book. Maybe even show a few petrified trees near the top of the valley. Another idea would be to have the shot of the Martian surface come later, when Ransom is on the Sorn's shoulder, having him glimpse the surface for a moment before descending to Meldilorn.

I had to put in a great deal more thought into Perelandra, but the answer that came to me was much simpler. For a film version, at the end, before Ransom gets into the angelic coffin ship (best name I could think of, sorry), he would voice his concern to Tor and Tinidril about other humans like Weston discovering their paradise. They would then tell him that he needn't worry, that Maleldil has graced their world so that one looking in from outside, if their gaze could pierce the atmosphere (with telescopes, satellites, etc.), would see only a barren, inhospitable world (maybe even hint at how only a select few can come/return to Perelandra, which would be a little hint at Hideous Strength's reference to Arthur).

And as for Tinidril's nudity, I think it could be handled modestly without making her seem to non-human (like Mystique from X-men). As for Ransom's, as well as Weston's and Devine's (from OOTSP), that could be reasonably ignored for a film version, as space could be presented as colder than in the books (at least when traveling in Weston's ship, maybe the Eldil ship wouldn't have that problem).

Just my thoughts.
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Re: If made into movies....

Postby CSLFAN » 10 Apr 2010, 22:09

I just thought I'd put this out there. When I heard this music, it instantly struck me as perfect for a movie trailer for OOTSP, if not the film itself. It particularly brings to mind parts like the hunt with the Hrossa or attempting to journey from one handramit to the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPUExZCWwY

The company that scored this piece specializes in making short musical pieces for movie previews. Any thoughts?

Also this one has always reminded me of Perelandra, especially Ransom and Tinidril riding the sea creatures. It's by the same company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxozYEx ... re=related
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Re: If made into movies....

Postby narnia56 » 11 Apr 2010, 22:33

Hey, I have one too. :dance:






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Re: If made into movies....

Postby CSLFAN » 17 Apr 2010, 16:39

Something I realized about "With Great Power" and "Serenata", they are both similar to Ransom's description of the eldila at the end of Perelandra, the former more masculine and the latter more feminine, at least to my ears.
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