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The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

Postby Áthas » December 10th, 2008, 4:57 pm

Gosh, this thread made me laugh. I was just talking about that with someone today when we were having coffee. She (Mrs. P., the person I was having coffee with), read the Narnia books and also seems to have read quite a bit about C. S. Lewis. I told her about the trilogy and described the Fairy to her, especially the situation when she interrogates Jane and burns her with cigarettes (or is it the cheroot?). And - wait for it - Mrs. P. is a psychiatric doctor! I'm certain that from the perspective of a psychiatric doctor, there is a lot to say, not only about the Fairy. It might also be interesting to analyze how and where C. S. Lewis got the idea of creating such a character - not sure if it's only the whole fairy-tale thing.

I kind of imagined the Fairy to act out her sado-masochistic desires when interrogating Jane. Kind of funny that something like that comes from me because I'm absolutely against seeing sexuality behind every action, but somehow, it seems to fit.
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Re: The Fairy

Postby Áthas » December 10th, 2008, 4:59 pm

PS: Somehow, the Fairy fascinates me too - although I wouldn't ever want our paths to cross if she was alive. maybe seeing her from a safe distance and watching her for a day would be interesting!
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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 10th, 2008, 6:53 pm

I'm absolutely against seeing sexuality behind every action,

As the man nearly said, sometimes a cheroot is just a cheroot.

Regarding where Lewis got the idea from: well, we know that he had a vivid imagination, especially in the sado-masocistic line, which is one reason why I regard "The Dark Tower" as more likely than not to be authentic, but still there were several real-life women around who would have provided at least a partial model (I named one at the beginning of this thread), and given that THS was published in 1943, if he'd waited a couple of years he'd have got plenty of material to show that in comparison the Fairy was ... a pussy-cat?
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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 10th, 2008, 8:01 pm

I should really have qualified that reference to sado-masochism. In his correspondence with his great friend Arthur Greeves (a gay Christian - it's not just North America in the 21st century) he admits to mild s-m fantasies - not uncommon for those who underwent an education in Britain's public (i.e. private) scholls at the time, where beating with a cane or a birch was a regular occurrence. But that's it. I don't think it was anything more than a very minor part of hos personality.
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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 10th, 2008, 8:02 pm

Please excuse typos in above. :snow-cry:
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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 10th, 2008, 10:29 pm

I think that part of what attracted the Fairy about Jane was her (relative) innocence. The challenge of corrupting, or at least damaging, that innocence would stimulate somebody evil. And anyway, a lot of people (like the Fairy) just like hurting people. They get a kick out of it. They go to bed feeling warm and fulfilled.
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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 10th, 2008, 10:43 pm

Sorry, guv - not yet used to new format. :snow-blush:
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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

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Re: The Fairy

Postby galion » December 11th, 2008, 12:29 am

I think you may be right on the sexual front, without going into any further detail :snow-rolleyes: . But that's at least partly what a lot of folk get out of torture, as well as the pleasure of dominating and humiliating - I'm in charge, and you are powerless to resist me. You are do0ing my will. See "Nineteen Eighty Four", which has some things in common with THS (just 5 years apart in publication dates).

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