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With Regard To: OotSP - Chapter 4 Study

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With Regard To: OotSP - Chapter 4 Study

Postby Hanraoi » 26 Jan 2009, 19:46

I am a recently registered Wardrobian, and I have been perusing the study and comments on OotSP. One of the comments included in the discussion section attracted my attention. It reads as follows:

"Secondly - The overwhelming Presence felt by Ransom.
My question is...why does Weston not feel this? Or if he does, why doesnt he react to it? If it is an overwhelming Presence, Weston should at least react to it - be that by a heightened sense of fear, an anxiety, or some other reaction towards this intrusion into his self-creation. Weston is so absolutely sure of his 'mission', that he requires no one else to contribute intellectually that mission, that an intrusion should, at least cause him to incorporate that Presence into his overall creation. Yet, we see no evidence of that incorporation, or even an acknowledgement that there is a Presence felt by anyone other than Ransom.

In Hope,

J_S "

http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4914

Parts of some of the responses that followed discussed the question, and gave various suggestions. One bit of information was not mentioned, though, which seems important in considering the question, namely that the trip with Ransom was Weston's second trip. Perhaps, in the first trip, Weston had become inured to the Presence, and so reckoned it as just another item in the unexplained phenomena of space. Or, perhaps, being a devout humanist, he was far enough down the pathway followed by Wither in THS to be oblivious to any spiritual influences, and didn't even feel it. I'm not sure about Devine, but he also had been to Malacandra previously, and being a devout materialist, was incapable of admitting that there was anything beyond nature (the nature he knew).

Have any other Wardrobians thoughts on the question?

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Re: With Regard To: OotSP - Chapter 4 Study

Postby FrotisG » 28 Jan 2009, 08:27

With reguards to weston's apparent immunity to the feeling of the 'presence of space':
when asked, by ransom, Weston gives a strictly scientific response. He acknowledges the rays, then replys dryly: (not a direct quote) ”Why, of course! You see, (speaking to ransom) thats because on earth, our atmosphere protects/blocks us from 'harmful' rays...which we would otherwise have to put up with. But now that we float unprotected through space, with no atmosphere, one is burdened with having to 'suffer' them. It will soon pass, nothing to worry about”
So'i guess he [being the fiend he is] somehow represses the psychlogical effect and emotional benefits...he wont let them in/ his body is not a worthy vessel. That my best understanding, anyway!
its been awhile since ive read SilentPlanet, after thinking about all this, i think its time for another round.
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Re: With Regard To: OotSP - Chapter 4 Study

Postby Stanley Anderson » 28 Jan 2009, 15:06

FrotisG wrote:With reguards to weston's apparent immunity to the feeling of the 'presence of space':
when asked, by ransom, Weston gives a strictly scientific response. He acknowledges the rays, then replys dryly: (not a direct quote) ”Why, of course! You see, (speaking to ransom) thats because on earth, our atmosphere protects/blocks us from 'harmful' rays...which we would otherwise have to put up with. But now that we float unprotected through space, with no atmosphere, one is burdened with having to 'suffer' them. It will soon pass, nothing to worry about”
So'i guess he [being the fiend he is] somehow represses the psychlogical effect and emotional benefits...he wont let them in/ his body is not a worthy vessel. That my best understanding, anyway!
its been awhile since ive read SilentPlanet, after thinking about all this, i think its time for another round.
peace


This reply may seem a bit random and unrelated, but I'm going to post it anyway. I think it has much application here, but I can say more about that later (and it may be pretty obvious to many here after all). In any case, here is a copy and paste of an opening post to a thread I started elsewhere (ie, in Jo's forums). The thread was titled simply "DNA".

DNA

I don't have a lot to say about this at the moment. Just watch the video -- it's quite interesting. I'm curious about reactions to the display. Most people are vaguely aware that the double helix of DNA splits into two strands and that each strand then "fills in" the opposite half to form the two complete DNA molecules needed for reproduction and cell division, and that's about it. The actual complexity of this process, not to mention the other prime aspect of DNA's purpose -- ie, to translate DNA code sections (genes) into actual "working" protien molecules that build the cells and cause it to function properly, are even less clear or non-existent in most people's minds. So this video show some of that side of DNA too -- very educational I think.

Any "science" people out there will probably already be aware of these things, but even so, this video is very fun to watch and gives more details about those processes for people less familiar with the subject. It really is amazing -- but keep in mind that even this presentation shows but just the tiniest fraction of the much vaster complexity that is involved in each of these steps of DNA activity. The more you look into that complexity, the more it seems like a black hole of ever increasing complexity -- very fractal-like, I think. (If you are unfamiliar with these DNA processes, you may want to watch the video a few times to get the full impact of what is going on.

In any case, enjoy this. And if you feel inclined, post any comments about what you think of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PKjF7OumYo

--Stanley
…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Re: With Regard To: OotSP - Chapter 4 Study

Postby Stanley Anderson » 28 Jan 2009, 15:19

(By the way, we have the entire DVD that that video comes from. There are lots of wonderful things on it and I'm using it to teach genetics to our son Gawain. Anyone that is interested can go to the http://www.dnai.org site to find out about the DNA Interactive DVD and lots more.)

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…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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