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I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

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I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Steve » March 20th, 2005, 12:54 pm

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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Stanley Anderson » March 20th, 2005, 10:33 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Leslie » March 21st, 2005, 12:43 am

I don't think you can consider the story in the Judeo-Christian paradigm at all; you have to try to get inside the mind of a pre-Christian pagan. Think of it as a dream, perhaps - one of the good dreams that Lewis believed God sent to pagan cultures.

In these dreams, there would be mysterious hints of something beyond what ordinary, daily life offered, which would be made into tales and songs. You would not expect the dreamers to get a clear picture of God; even we, with thousands of years of God revealing himself to Israel, and with the Incarnation a fact of our history, still see only dimly.

Appearing as a god of the mountain seems at least as realistic as appearing in a burning bush.
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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Steve » March 22nd, 2005, 11:07 am

I don't think Melchizedek compares with the god of the mountain. I believe Melchizedek, even though he was unrelated to Abraham, still worshiped Yahweh, and that is why Abraham honored him.
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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Leslie » March 22nd, 2005, 9:50 pm

"What are you laughing at?"
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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Steve » March 23rd, 2005, 12:36 pm

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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Leslie » March 24th, 2005, 2:50 pm

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Postby Steve » March 24th, 2005, 6:22 pm

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Re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Leslie » March 25th, 2005, 7:02 pm

"What are you laughing at?"
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re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby Jservic2 » July 19th, 2006, 11:07 pm

Malkizedch (spelling) comes from the hebrew malchi, king; and zedech rightouness. I think we all know who the king of rightchousness is.

Pharasi "Are you telling us, that your greater than Abraham?"
Jesus "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was I am "

So who else would be able to bless Abraham, since the greater must bless the lesser.

I think there is some talk in hewbrews about the order of Malchizidech, it is worth looking up.

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About joan of arc, god clearly took sides in the expansion of the hebrew kingdom.
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PS i suck at spelling and can hardly remeber where versus are, but hopefully those are popular enough.
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re: I retract my question about TWHF being Christian

Postby WolfVanZandt » July 22nd, 2006, 6:02 am

It's a fairly common belief that Melchezidek was a theophany - an early appearence of Christ.

Also, if not Plato and Aristotle, Socrates claimed to have inspiration from a spirit being.
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