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Till We Have Faces any Thoughts?

Comprising most of Lewis' writings.
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Till We Have Faces any Thoughts?

Postby Ian » September 13th, 2005, 7:57 pm

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Postby Ian » September 22nd, 2005, 6:10 pm

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Postby stardf29 » November 30th, 2005, 8:13 am

I love "Till We Have Faces". It is probably my favorite book outside the Chronicles of Narnia. :grin:

As for whether it is a Christian book... I'd say it's no more Christian than Narnia is, and I would argue that the Chronicles of Narnia are not Christian books. However, it is influenced by Christianity, to be sure.

It seems like, in that story more than any other, Lewis wanted to emphasize the idea of myths being representative of the One True Myth.
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Postby calliope_queene » December 16th, 2005, 5:26 pm

I really love Till We Have Faces, it's my favourite of Lewis's works.
I would say it is a Christian book since it was after all, written by a Christian writer--but like a lot of Lewis's fiction, it is not blatantly or "typically" Christian. Also, it goes along with what Lewis believed about myths--they are all sort of like shadows of Christianity, which was what he believed to be the one true myth.
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Postby Tony » December 16th, 2005, 7:53 pm

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Postby LadyHawke9973 » December 29th, 2005, 8:58 pm

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Postby Baruu » January 5th, 2006, 11:54 pm

Let's see...I'm a Rohan warrior, a Narnian Warrior, a Redwall warrior...um...I'm an all-around freak??
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Postby jo » February 24th, 2006, 8:19 pm

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Postby Esther » February 25th, 2006, 1:08 am

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Postby NarniaLover89 » February 25th, 2006, 1:20 am

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Postby Marcus_P_Hagen » February 25th, 2006, 4:34 am

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Postby jo » February 25th, 2006, 11:49 am

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Postby NarniaLover89 » February 25th, 2006, 12:53 pm

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Postby Steve » February 26th, 2006, 10:42 pm

Chris - Sehoy on here - has interesting things to say about gender in the book and I agree with her; I think that there are no decisive female characters because I think that Orual is essentially a man, with a man's feelings, who never really explores her femininity (to use an awful modern phrase :)). You have a wanton, a goddess, a man in woman's clothing and a woman's body .. that's all. I think that that's typical of many of Lewis's books, in which women fall into one of those categories (or that of the 'saint', like Lucy in the Narnia books).

Interesting idea. Did Sehoy say this on this thread, or somewhere else?
I remember once some years ago (maybe in the chatroom, not on the forums?) whether Orual was a realistic female character, and being assured by a female that she was realistic.

So what is the lack of femininity on her part? She obviously doesn't do the traditional marry and mother children feminine role, and she goes to war, which certainly seems rather unfeminine. But I would think that her longing for relationship with Bardia is a "traditional" feminine trait. A stereotypical male boss would just want Bardia to be "in the office" at all hours, and not feel jealous when he needed to go home. And such a boss would "comfort" the widow by talking about how proud she should be of what he accomplished, and be totally oblivious to how much Bardia's wife wanted him to be home.
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