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Time in Heaven?

Comprising most of Lewis' writings.
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Time in Heaven?

Postby Riana » October 27th, 2005, 2:14 am

Is there time in the Post Resurrection Heaven?
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re: Time in Heaven?

Postby Leslie » October 27th, 2005, 4:22 pm

Welcome, Riana!

That's a difficult question, and impossible to answer definitively on this side of the grave. It's difficult even to describe time as we know it - many great thinkers have tried to unravel the mystery of time, without much success.

I'm of the opinion that if there is music in heaven, there must be time there also.

Lewis had some thoughts on the nature of time in heaven. He suggested that time in heaven might be more like a solid object, rather than the line of time that we appear to travel in this life. I'm trying to find where he wrote this, but haven't been able to find it yet. (It may be in Mere Christianity, but my copy is in my teenage daughter's room, where I dare not enter.)
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re: Time in Heaven?

Postby magpie » October 27th, 2005, 4:27 pm

I personally would doubt that there is time in Heaven. For me Heaven is being in the eternal present with God who is outside of time (time being one of God's creations). An interesting discussion of this issue can be found in Book 11 of The Confessions of St. Augustine. Lewis also touches on this in The Screwtape Letters in various places.
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Re: Time in Heaven?

Postby Stanley Anderson » October 27th, 2005, 4:31 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby Bill » October 27th, 2005, 10:44 pm

When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound and time shall be no more,
And the morning breaks eternal bright and fair,
When the Saints of Earth shall gather over on the other side,
When the roll is called up yonder I'll be there.


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re: Time in Heaven?

Postby Riana » October 29th, 2005, 3:35 am

Thank you all for your responses! I recently found out that my church, the Missouri Synod Lutheran church has listed in their "Confessional Lutheran Dogmatics book on Eschatoloty ( by John Stephenson) that it is accepted and believed that there is time in Heaven (p. 52) and that New Earth is a real planet made of real matter (p130). For many years I had no idea that was the stand of the church of which I was a part of (and many of the other parishoners that belong to this denomination still do not know it). What do other churches believe? I am especially interested in finding out what the Roman Catholic Church believes. Does anyone know who can quote a source?
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re: Time in Heaven?

Postby Sylvia Lee » November 30th, 2005, 11:49 pm

I think that Time does exist in Heaven, but it is not nearly so important as Progression-- that is, learning and growing in spirituality to become closer to God. I also think that God must have some way of surpassing the limits of time-- time-travel, if you will-- so that time, for him, is not linear, but rather spherical, so that He can see and reach any specific point at any given moment.
Take my voice and let me sing always only for my King.
Take my lips, and let them be filled with messages from thee.
Take my hands and let them move at the impulse of thy love.
Take my feet and let them be swift and beautiful for thee.
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Re: re: Time in Heaven?

Postby magpie » December 5th, 2005, 5:36 pm

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re: Time in Heaven?

Postby Bill » December 5th, 2005, 5:47 pm

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Time in Heaven would seem most illogical.

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Postby magpie » December 5th, 2005, 5:51 pm

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Postby Stanley Anderson » December 5th, 2005, 6:05 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby magpie » December 5th, 2005, 6:52 pm

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Postby Stanley Anderson » December 5th, 2005, 7:13 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby Bill » December 5th, 2005, 11:10 pm

Time is the fire in which we burn!

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