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misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby MoogieCha2 » 10 Nov 2004, 16:42

Hello,

I remember reading this insightful and, at first, astonishing, comment CS Lewis wrote about MARRIAGE in The Four Loves.

Lewis was talking about man being given the role of head of the family but how it isn't the glam job we make it out to be.

Lewis compared a husband's love for his wife with Christ's love for the church, and all its imperfections and weaknesses. It's really a good quote. A paragraph or so, I think.

I'd like to send it to a friend who just got engaged. Why am I sending him a quote about marrying an imperfect woman? Well, ... I could tell you but then I'd be gossipping!

Would anyone be able to post the quote here? I have misplaced my Four Loves book. :(

Thanks!

Moogs
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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Leslie » 10 Nov 2004, 19:34

Hey Moogs! Here ya go:

"... the Christian law has crowned [man] in the permanent relationship of marriage, bestowing - or should I say, inflicting? - a certain "headship" on him. This is a very different coronation. And as we could easily take the natural mystery too seriously, so we might take the Christian mystery not seriously enough. Christian writers (notably Milton) have sometimes spoken of the husband's headship with a complacency to make the blood run cold. We must go back to our Bibles. The husband is the head of the wife just in so far as he is to her what Christ is to the Church. He is to love her as Christ loved the church - read on - and gave his life for her (Eph. V, 25). This headship, then, is most fully embodied not in the husband we should all wish to be but in him whose marriage is most like a crucifixion; whose wife receives most and gives least, is most unworthy of him, is - in her own mere nature - least lovable. For the Church has no beauty but what the Bridegroom gives her; he does not find, but makes her, lovely. The chrism of this terrible coronation is to be seen not in the joys of any man's marriage but in its sorrows, in the sickness and sufferings of a good wife or the faults of a bad one, in his unwearying (never paraded) care or his inexhaustible forgiveness: forgiveness, not acquiescence. As Christ sees in the flawed, proud or fanatical lukewarm Church on earth that Bride who will one day be without spot or wrinkle, and labours to produce the latter, so the husband whose headship is Christ-like (and he is allowed no other sort) never despairs. He is a King Cophetua who after twenty years still hopes that the beggar-girl will one day learn to speak the truth and wash behind her ears."

The chapter on "Christian Marriage" in Mere Christianity also has something about the headship of the husband.
"What are you laughing at?"
"At myself. My little puny self," said Phillipa.
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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Guest » 12 Nov 2004, 19:29

Hey, Leslie,

A fellow canuck! Though I am currently residing overseas.

Thanks so much for the quote!!! It's an odd little quote, eh? And easily misinterpreted in intent. But I love it. Takes the pressure off, really.

I came across it the first time just when I was feeling discouraged about my lack of spiritual 'progress'. I was asking God to hurry up and change me so I would win the love and respect of a certain someone. What I learned is that the *guy* wasn't up to the task, as detailed by Lewis, anyway! Heh.

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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Leslie » 13 Nov 2004, 00:37

Hi Moogs -

There are a few of us Canucks here, eh? Welcome! Where are you from?
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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Juniper » 14 Nov 2004, 19:49

hey great qoute but of course it is its Lewis! Anyhoo just randomly decided too check out the forums and found two more canucks. I'm also from Toronto. God Bless eh
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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby MoogieCha » 14 Nov 2004, 19:52

Hi, again,

I'm from all over, really. Spent the most time in Vancouver, though, where my parents are currently residing. I'm in Japan. You?

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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Karla » 14 Nov 2004, 20:10

I'm Canadian also, from Montréal.
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Re: misplaced my Four Loves book, need a quote, please

Postby Leslie » 14 Nov 2004, 21:01

I've spent most of my life in the Toronto area, and currently live in mid-town Toronto (aka the centre of the universe ;) ).
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C eh N eh D eh

Postby MoogieCha » 23 Nov 2004, 16:47

I lived in Toronto for the first five years in Canada... all I remember about the city itself was that it was.... very grey... Hope it's changed. haven't been back for 25 yrs! Though I'd bet it and Montreal are a lot more vibrant than Vancouver. Very... laid.... back...here....*snore*

Now I live in Japan, which is very busy and crowded...and before that Singapore which was also very busy and crowded....And only one other CS Lewis fan that I know of here... and he doesnt post on the Wardrobe as far as I know.

We've both decided that when we die and go to heaven, we'd like to have tea with Mr. Lewis and ask him a few questions!


Moogs

PS Sorry for the ramble, it's late here.
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Re: C eh N eh D eh

Postby Leslie » 24 Nov 2004, 04:20

MoogieCha wrote:I lived in Toronto for the first five years in Canada... all I remember about the city itself was that it was.... very grey... Hope it's changed. haven't been back for 25 yrs!



Hmm - I don't think the look has changed substantially in 25 years (which is about when I moved here). There are still many greyish buildings, but the ravines are green (well, not this time of year) and the lake is blue and the Royal Bank building is gold (real gold in the windows, I'm told).

Montreal is probably more vibrant than Toronto, but T.O. is a great place to live.
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