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The Forgotten Story

The Forgotten Story

Postby Jill Pole » 18 Feb 2005, 00:16

What was the Forgotten Story that Lucy forgot in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader?
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby john » 18 Feb 2005, 00:41

Jill Pole,

You seem to post a lot. Why don't you register? :)

I can't answer your question...to do so would go against my own rules to do other people's homework...try scanning through the book and you'll find your answer.

HINT: It's on the island where the Dufflepuds are.
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby K_Grape » 18 Feb 2005, 01:34

I seem to recall that it's a very nice story, but if I read it I guess it's forgotten to me to. ;)
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby carol » 18 Feb 2005, 05:04

DrZeus wrote:Jill Pole, You seem to post a lot. Why don't you register? :)


Good idea. Everyone's welcome in the Wardrobe!

Just because I am nosey, are you Jill Pole on any other websites?
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Jill Pole » 18 Feb 2005, 18:34

Yes, I'm Jill Pole on 3 other forums. I'm about to leave those, though. Horrible arguments and such. :o I haven't asked my parents yet but sooner or later. :)
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Jill Pole » 18 Feb 2005, 18:36

And by the way, I don't think that the story was in the book itself, but I thought that it was odd that Aslan would tell it to Lucy over and over again. So then it came to me that it may be a story I already know, but I haven't ever heard of one with a cup, sword, hill, etc.
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Leslie » 18 Feb 2005, 19:06

Jill Pole wrote:What was the Forgotten Story that Lucy forgot in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader?

All we know is that it was about "a cup and a sword and a tree and a green hill". It sounds to me like the story of the passion and crucifixion.
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"At myself. My little puny self," said Phillipa.
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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Stanley Anderson » 18 Feb 2005, 20:57

Leslie wrote:
Jill Pole wrote:What was the Forgotten Story that Lucy forgot in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader?

All we know is that it was about "a cup and a sword and a tree and a green hill". It sounds to me like the story of the passion and crucifixion.


It certainly is something of that. It is also probably connected in some way with the psalm verse, "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork" -- ie, the things we see and experience in this world speak to us of God's Truth and His story. So stories of many kinds can conjure up these ideas.

If one reads it carefully, one can see that this whole passage is a sort of literary manifestation of Lewis' concept of Joy -- that intense, fleeting and unsatisfied longing for something that is always just beyond one's reach and senses -- thus the story, and even her memory of it, disappearing as she reads it. As Lewis suggests in his descriptions and analysis of Joy in some of his other works, it is an indication to us that we were made for something beyond this world since nothing here quite satisfies the longing.

And that is why Aslan tells her that he will be telling it to her (and by extention, to us) for many years to come. He tells it to us when we get those same pangs of longing while reading the Narnia stories themselves, or Lord of the Rings, or any other book (or indeed any other kind of experience) that excite us in that way.

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Re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Jill Pole » 19 Feb 2005, 18:40

Thank you, everyone!
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re: The Forgotten Story

Postby Warwick » 30 Apr 2006, 20:00

I think that this is really a story within the story.. its another allegory to Christ, at least the Jesus of Nazareth we would call Christ, as Aslan is the Jesus figure in Narnia. This really stems from all the things Lucy remembers and of what we see in the last four days of Jesus in jerusalem: the cup at passover which becomes the symbol of the new covenant; Peter's use of the sword in Gethsemane, and Christ's admonition that violent men take the kingdom by force; the tree,, which is another word for the cross ("cursed is any man who is hung from a tree), and the green hill, which is the common site of the resurrection, especially in English paintings.
Lewis tells us in several books and writings that all good myths and stories which really speak to us of longing and satisfaction stem off of the one story of Christ. And the fact that Aslan will continue to tell her the story, really enforces Lewis's notion of God calling out to humanity and reminding us everywhere we look in nature and in ourselves of the story of Christ.
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