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On Lewis' theological virtues

On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby ROGIE » 07 Jul 2006, 04:04

My head is in a mess right now. I'm planning to write a decent thesis for my M.A. in theology about C.S. Lewis ideas on theological virtues: faith, hope, love, basing on his works but it seems like, he did not really write a comprehensive expositions regarding such matters. I don't know how to start my research. I'm out of focus. Can anyone have any good suggestions?! What writings do you recommend?? Thanks for the help :cry:
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re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby loeee » 07 Jul 2006, 17:12

Do you need works where he deals with all the theological virtues, or can you have different works for different virtues?

If the latter, I heartily recommend The Four Loves.
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re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby A#minor » 07 Jul 2006, 18:54

There are three chapters in Mere Christianity entitled "Faith," "Hope," and "Charity" respectively. He even discusses the difference between the Theological Virtues and the Cardinal Virtues.
I would also recommend The Four Loves.
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re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Stanley Anderson » 07 Jul 2006, 20:13

I have a personal belief/theory that Lewis' definition of Joy (capitalized to distinguish it from the common definition) is a sort of pre-conversion version of Scriptural Hope (again, capitalized to distinguish it from the common definition). The conventional portion of the definition of Hope that has to do with "not being sure, but still hoping" has always bothered me, and to me the more important part of Hope has to do with a kind of "longing" or desire. And this kind of desire is, I think, what Lewis talks about in his description of his special understanding of Joy, except that to the non-believer it is still a "longing for I know not what".

Anyway, people have disagreed with me in the past about this idea of equating Joy and Hope (at some pre-conversion, and even in an "extended" way for post-conversion, manner), but if it resonates at all with you, I could suggest those portions of Lewis' books where he talks about Joy (explicitly in Surprized by Joy, and the afterward to The Pilgrim's Regress, and implicitly in just about every book he wrote, especially in Narnia, the Space Trilogy, and Till We Have Faces)

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Re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Paul F. Ford » 08 Jul 2006, 16:32

ROGIE wrote:My head is in a mess right now. I'm planning to write a decent thesis for my M.A. in theology about C.S. Lewis ideas on theological virtues: faith, hope, love, basing on his works but it seems like, he did not really write a comprehensive expositions regarding such matters. I don't know how to start my research. I'm out of focus. Can anyone have any good suggestions?! What writings do you recommend?? Thanks for the help :cry:


I wrote my master's thesis on Lewis's eschatology and did a lot on his theology of hope. You could borrow it from my school's library: http://206.72.92.89:81/

Your best help is C. S. Lewis Index: Rumours from the Sculptor’s Shop, Janine Goffar, Riverside, CA: La Sierra University Press, 1995, 0891079807.

You must read Faith, Hope, Love, Josef Pieper, San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1997, 0-89870-623-8. Pieper and his wife corresponded wth Lewis and translated many of his works into German.

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Re: re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Guest » 09 Jul 2006, 08:05

loeee wrote:Do you need works where he deals with all the theological virtues, or can you have different works for different virtues?

If the latter, I heartily recommend The Four Loves.


I'm planning to write a thesis on the three theological virtues basing on his different works. At least those of Lewis' works AFTER his so-called conversion to Christianity. Thanks. Is this feasible??
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Re: re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Guest » 09 Jul 2006, 08:07

A#minor wrote:There are three chapters in Mere Christianity entitled "Faith," "Hope," and "Charity" respectively. He even discusses the difference between the Theological Virtues and the Cardinal Virtues.
I would also recommend The Four Loves.


I have already read both books. But it's not enough.
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Re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Guest » 09 Jul 2006, 08:14

Paul F. Ford wrote:
ROGIE wrote:My head is in a mess right now. I'm planning to write a decent thesis for my M.A. in theology about C.S. Lewis ideas on theological virtues: faith, hope, love, basing on his works but it seems like, he did not really write a comprehensive expositions regarding such matters. I don't know how to start my research. I'm out of focus. Can anyone have any good suggestions?! What writings do you recommend?? Thanks for the help :cry:


I wrote my master's thesis on Lewis's eschatology and did a lot on his theology of hope. You could borrow it from my school's library: http://206.72.92.89:81/

Your best help is C. S. Lewis Index: Rumours from the Sculptor’s Shop, Janine Goffar, Riverside, CA: La Sierra University Press, 1995, 0891079807.

You must read Faith, Hope, Love, Josef Pieper, San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1997, 0-89870-623-8. Pieper and his wife corresponded wth Lewis and translated many of his works into German.

Blessings,
Paul


Thanks. You are a a big help. I am not aware of these two books. I think it will help me a lot. I hope it's in our library.
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Re: re: On Lewis' theological virtues

Postby Guest » 09 Jul 2006, 08:17

Stanley Anderson wrote:I have a personal belief/theory that Lewis' definition of Joy (capitalized to distinguish it from the common definition) is a sort of pre-conversion version of Scriptural Hope (again, capitalized to distinguish it from the common definition). The conventional portion of the definition of Hope that has to do with "not being sure, but still hoping" has always bothered me, and to me the more important part of Hope has to do with a kind of "longing" or desire. And this kind of desire is, I think, what Lewis talks about in his description of his special understanding of Joy, except that to the non-believer it is still a "longing for I know not what".

Anyway, people have disagreed with me in the past about this idea of equating Joy and Hope (at some pre-conversion, and even in an "extended" way for post-conversion, manner), but if it resonates at all with you, I could suggest those portions of Lewis' books where he talks about Joy (explicitly in Surprized by Joy, and the afterward to The Pilgrim's Regress, and implicitly in just about every book he wrote, especially in Narnia, the Space Trilogy, and Till We Have Faces)

--Stanley


Now, that could be an angle I could use for my research. Equating Joy with Hope. Thanks.
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