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Liberal & Conservative Lewis Quotation

Liberal & Conservative Lewis Quotation

Postby Guest » 01 Nov 2006, 09:01

I had read through the C.S. Lewis apologetics books a while back, and I am dying to locate a quote I swear I had read. It was something along the lines of: as a Christian, I am both conservative in that I believe in moral absolutes, and liberal in that I believe in serving the poor. Am I remembering this correctly?

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Postby A#minor » 01 Nov 2006, 15:45

Do you remember which book it was?
Look here to search inside several of his books. Hope you find it!
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Postby Karen » 01 Nov 2006, 16:06

It doesn't sound like the sort of thing he'd say - it sounds like a much more recent (and American) sort of formulation. As for what he thought in general about the topic, read the "Social Morality" section of Mere Christianity.
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Re: Liberal & Conservative Lewis Quotation

Postby Janet » 01 Nov 2006, 17:29

Anonymous wrote:I had read through the C.S. Lewis apologetics books a while back, and I am dying to locate a quote I swear I had read. It was something along the lines of: as a Christian, I am both conservative in that I believe in moral absolutes, and liberal in that I believe in serving the poor. Am I remembering this correctly?

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That doesn't sound right to me at all. I'm sure I've never come across it and I've read a lot of CSL. But what makes me almost sure that he never said that is that I don't think ANYBODY would have drawn conservative/liberal lines based on those criteria before 1963.

Perhaps you read someone else describing Lewis in that way.

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Socialism?

Postby Guest » 01 Nov 2006, 19:31

I believe the word used--rather than conservative/liberal--was socialism. Thanks A#Minor for the resource, it must've been in one of the books I own--Abolition of Man, Mere Christianity, Problem of Pain, Miracles, or Great Divorce. Only a matter of time=)

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I agree that according to all my keyword searches and related articles expounding Lewis' political views, it doesn't sound like he would say something positive about socialism. But I don't think I will be able to convince myself it is a false memory until I've reread all the books listed above--I even remember it being printed on the top right portion of the page. Strange...
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Postby Karen » 01 Nov 2006, 19:42

From the section I mention above:

All the same, the New Testament, without going into details, gives us a pretty clear hint of what a fully Christian society would be like. Perhaps it gives us more than we can take. It tells us that there are to be no passengers or parasites: if a man does not work, he ought not to eat. Every one is to work with his own hands, and what is more, every one's work is to produce something good: there will be no manufacture of silly luxuries and then of sillier advertisements to persuade us to buy them. And there is to be no "swank" or "side," no putting on airs. To that extent a Christian society would be what we now call Leftist. On the other hand, it is always insisting on obedience (and outward marks of respect) from all of us to properly appointed magistrates, from children to parents, and (I am afraid this is going to be very unpopular) from wives to husbands. Thirdly, it is to be a cheerful society: full of singing and rejoicing, and regarding worry or anxiety as wrong. Courtesy is one of the Christian virtues; and the New Testament hates what it calls "busybodies."

If there were such a society in existence and you or I visited it, I think we should come away with a curious impression. We should feel that its economic life was very socialistic and, in that sense, "advanced," but that its family life and its code of manners were rather old-fashioned - perhaps even ceremonious and aristocratic. Each of us would like some bits of it, but I am afraid very few of us would like the whole thing. That is just what one would expect if Christianity is the total plan for the human machine. We have all departed from that total plan in different ways, and each of us wants to make out that his own modification of the original plan is the plan itself. You will find this again and again about anything that is really Christian: every one is attracted by bits of it and wants to pick out those bits and leave the rest. That is why we do not get much further: and that is why people who are fighting for quite opposite things can both say they are fighting for Christianity.
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Postby Janet » 01 Nov 2006, 21:16

Karen wrote:It doesn't sound like the sort of thing he'd say - it sounds like a much more recent (and American) sort of formulation. As for what he thought in general about the topic, read the "Social Morality" section of Mere Christianity.


Well, if I'd seen this before I posted, I wouldn't have bothered to post the same thing! <G>.

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Postby Karen » 01 Nov 2006, 22:12

You said it more clearly than I did, though!
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Thanks!

Postby Guest » 02 Nov 2006, 06:32

That's exactly what I was looking for, Karen. Sorry the first time through I didn't realize you were pointing me somewhere. :smile:

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