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"Sun is always shining somewhere else"

PostPosted: 13 Jul 2007, 14:44
by Guest
Hello!

In the movie "Shadowlands", Anthony Hopkins in one scene says:

"We live in the shadowlands.
Sun is always shining somewhere else...
around a bend in the road...
over the brow of a hill."

He just adds that this was from "one of my stories."

Aside from the fact that in "The Last Battle" the shadowlands analogy is also employed - does anyone of you know where this passage might be from? I'd be quite indebted to you.

Thanks,

Oliver

PostPosted: 13 Jul 2007, 19:44
by Sven
Welcome, Oliver.

It's a paraphrase of Lewis (and not a particularly good one). The only place he specifically mentions the term 'Shadow-Lands" is in The Last Battle. It roughly refers to his take on Platonism, especially as it relates to Christianity. To find out more, you might read The Great Divorce. Outside of Lewis, you might read Plato's The Republic, especially book 7, and the Book of Hebrews in the New Testament.

Hope this helps.

Selah,
Sven

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2007, 20:15
by Guest
Indeed. Thank you a lot!

O.

Conception of "World"

PostPosted: 29 Jan 2008, 12:23
by Oliver
Hi, it's me again (just in case you're wondering, I'm writing on a Ph.D. in Heidelberg, and although Lewis is not my central topic, he, just like Tolkien, just shows up now and then :-)) I'm looking for a quote once more.

On the wikipedia disambiguation entry on "world" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(disambiguation) - it says:

"In C.S. Lewis's interpretation, as used in his Narnia children's novels and elsewhere, "Worlds" are places separated not by distance but by more fundamental barriers. It is impossible to travel from one world to another, even if you travel forever. Heaven, Earth and Hell are different worlds. This usage conveys the same kind of meaning as spiritual plane or dimension."

Of course this notion seems generally convincing, and indeed this is the way "worlds" are depicted in the chronicles. However, I was wondering if Lewis ever really clarified this concept, or if some wikipedia user just made it up?

Does anyone know if Lewis came up with a slim (i.e. quotable) definition if his notion of (fantasy) "world"?

Thanks for your help!

Oliver

PostPosted: 29 Jan 2008, 14:40
by repectabiggle
Oliver, check out Lewis's discussion of Nature (and other possible Natures) in Miracles. I'm not sure which, but it's in one of the first four chapters of that book, I believe. I'm not aware that Lewis ever said/wrote anything exactly like what that Wikipedia article says, but I'd wager this is where the writer started.

PostPosted: 29 Jan 2008, 22:14
by Sven
The bit Respectabiggle refers to is a few paragraphs before the end of chapter 2, beginning "In that respect there might be several 'Natures'."

The Wikipedia writer may have been thinking of the following (the Real World referred to is Heaven):

C. S. Lewis wrote:"All Hell is smaller than one pebble of your earthly world: but it is smaller than one atom of this world, the Real World. Look at yon butterfly. If it swallowed all Hell, Hell would not be big enough to do it any harm or to have any taste."

The Great Divorce

PostPosted: 01 Feb 2008, 07:45
by Oliver
Thanks a lot again, to both of you. That sure helps!

O.