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Chesterton Quote

PostPosted: 10 May 2008, 13:10
by Kolbitar
I swear I remember a Chesterton quote where he said either the papacy is the office of antichrist or represents the successors of Peter, or something to that effect. I've found similar quotes about Christ, and about the Church, but I swear there was one in relation to the papacy, Pontifex Maximus; something like that.

Any help? Sven?

PostPosted: 10 May 2008, 14:50
by Sven
It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe you're thinking of this? (It's the only time I can think of where he mentioned the papacy and the Antichrist together, though it is in sequential paragraphs.)


G. K. Chesterton wrote:I am concerned only with the historical fact, more and more admitted by historians, that very early in its history this thing became visible to the civilization of antiquity; and that already the Church appeared as a Church; with everything that is implied in a Church and much that is disliked in a Church. We will discuss in a moment how far it was like other ritualistic or magical or ascetical mysteries in its own time. It was certainly not in the least like merely ethical and idealistic movements in our time. It had a doctrine; it had a discipline; it had sacraments; it had degrees of initiation; it admitted people and expelled people; it affirmed one dogma with authority and repudiated another with anathemas. If all these things be the marks of Antichrist, the reign of Antichrist followed very rapidly upon Christ.

Those who maintain that Christianity was not a Church but a moral movement of idealists have been forced to push the period of its perversion or disappearance further and further back. A bishop of Rome writes claiming authority in the very lifetime of St. John the Evangelist; and it is described as the first papal aggression.

The Everlasting Man

PostPosted: 10 May 2008, 16:52
by Kolbitar
Sven wrote:It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe you're thinking of this? (It's the only time I can think of where he mentioned the papacy and the Antichrist together, though it is in sequential paragraphs.)


G. K. Chesterton wrote:I am concerned only with the historical fact, more and more admitted by historians, that very early in its history this thing became visible to the civilization of antiquity; and that already the Church appeared as a Church; with everything that is implied in a Church and much that is disliked in a Church. We will discuss in a moment how far it was like other ritualistic or magical or ascetical mysteries in its own time. It was certainly not in the least like merely ethical and idealistic movements in our time. It had a doctrine; it had a discipline; it had sacraments; it had degrees of initiation; it admitted people and expelled people; it affirmed one dogma with authority and repudiated another with anathemas. If all these things be the marks of Antichrist, the reign of Antichrist followed very rapidly upon Christ.

Those who maintain that Christianity was not a Church but a moral movement of idealists have been forced to push the period of its perversion or disappearance further and further back. A bishop of Rome writes claiming authority in the very lifetime of St. John the Evangelist; and it is described as the first papal aggression.

The Everlasting Man


Unfortunately that's not it, and if you can't find it then it's probable that it's just my memory playing tricks...

Thanks Sven...