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Any universalists here?

PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 12:15 pm
by jo

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 12:42 pm
by David Jack

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 12:55 pm
by jo

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 12:56 pm
by Steve

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 12:57 pm
by Karen

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 1:25 pm
by Robert

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 1:35 pm
by jo

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 5:50 pm
by alecto
There are too many definitions of "Universalist", I think, Jo. Are we talking about the ones who believe God can and will save people of good will (like Emeth in The Last Battle) even though they explicitely deny Christ, are we talking about the ones who believe other faiths like Hinduism are actually different versions of the Truth filtered through other cultures, or are we talking about the ones who believe all people will be saved in the end, even Satan? I'm sure there's some I'm missing, too.

As for the question of denying God, I don't think many people would. It's just that in common practice, one person's accepting God may look like another person's disbelief, because of the different faiths out there. And of course, there's also Matthew 25:34-46, which makes clear that simply saying "I believe" is not enough anyway.

re: Any universalists here?

PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 5:53 pm
by jo
I mean people who believe all are saved, regardless :)

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 6:08 pm
by Genie

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 6:21 pm
by Adam

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PostPosted: March 14th, 2006, 11:25 pm
by AllanS
All will be saved when all repent of their sins and turn to God. But like Gollum, we find our sins too precious to leave behind.

So God gives us up to then. They torment us. The pain becomes unbearable. And then, at last, we cry out to God.

"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted."

Hell is the mourning before the morning.

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PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 1:47 pm
by robsia

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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 7:33 pm
by David Jack

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PostPosted: March 17th, 2006, 5:03 am
by Shadowland Dweller