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Did Adam and Eve eat meat, before the "fall"?

Did Adam and Eve eat meat, before the "fall"?

Postby princessquitealot98 » April 7th, 2006, 10:58 pm

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re: Did Adam and Eve eat meat, before the "fall"?

Postby A#minor » April 8th, 2006, 12:00 am

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Postby Leslie » April 8th, 2006, 12:03 am

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Postby alecto » April 8th, 2006, 12:08 am

So far, this is already working itself up to a good argument against a literal reading of Genesis.
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Postby A#minor » April 8th, 2006, 12:11 am

I believe in a literal Genesis, and I believe that if God could make the entire universe, He could make soil that would grow anything He wanted grown.
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Postby princessquitealot98 » April 8th, 2006, 12:17 am

Right on, "A"! It was before the fall, remember? So the soil would have been in a state of perfection along with everything else. All that would have changed after the fact.
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Postby Leslie » April 8th, 2006, 12:45 am

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Postby Leslie » April 8th, 2006, 1:52 am

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Postby WolfVanZandt » April 8th, 2006, 7:17 am

I think that Leslie has a good and relevant question and one I've never seen a good answer to.

I would like to see a new approach. It would be rather exciting for someone to come up with supprt that there was no death before the fall.
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Postby AllanS » April 8th, 2006, 8:44 am

"A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head."

I'm curious. Were they red giants or just ordinary stars?
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Postby tangent » April 8th, 2006, 9:52 am

If we take a literal Genesis point of view - which I don't - we know that God made Adam and Eve on the sixth day and rested on the seventh. Regarding the natural ability for man to sin, I think the Fall occurred almost immediately, possibly on the sixth day and that Adam and Eve didn't have any time to eat meat. I don't see any need to assume that Adam and Eve lived for several days or even years before the Fall. That would not have served God's purpose.

I'm not a vegetarian and I don't regard eating meat as sinful - where does that idea come from? From a non-literalist point of view, Adam's eating of meat before the Fall would be equivalent to an animal eating meat before the Fall. Since God made carnivors, he intended those animals to eat meat, so he would have regarded eating meat as good. (And he told Paul in his vision before meeting Cornelius that eating meat was right and proper.) There seems, therefore, no religious obstacle to eating meat, that it isn't and wasn't sinful. Since God gave Adam teeth that were adapted both for eating vegetation and meat, I'm convinced that Adam did eat meat before the Fall.
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