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ghosts and christianity

Postby guzzle221 » June 2nd, 2006, 4:11 am

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Postby Pete » June 2nd, 2006, 9:12 am

They can take on physical form, yes, but just as God is described as being Spirit so they are also.
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Postby robsia » June 2nd, 2006, 11:20 am

So, you see them as being spirits that can manifest in corporeal form, so not like ghosts at all then?
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Postby Tony » June 2nd, 2006, 4:46 pm

"The Church is the natural home of the Human Spirit."
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Postby WolfVanZandt » June 3rd, 2006, 6:19 am

There are actually many scriptural reasons for believing that angels and demons are not pure spirit but one should be enough.

Jesus emphasized that God was spirit and because of that could not be seen. The deductive argument would run:

All things that are spirit are things that cannot be seen.
Angels are spirit,
Therefore, angels cannot be seen.
But angels can be seen.
Therefore, they cannot be pure spirit.

As for what ghosts are, the scriptures do not comment much on it.

When has there been a "proven spirits dweling?"

Why the assumption that ghosts can only be angels or deons?
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Postby Robert » June 3rd, 2006, 1:26 pm

Check out this article abou the subject....

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Postby Robert » June 3rd, 2006, 1:50 pm

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Postby robsia » June 3rd, 2006, 2:01 pm

According to the Bible, God can hideangels from our view. In the story of Balaam's donkey, the donkey could see the angel but Balaam could not until "God opened his eyes".

But clearly, in the eyes of those who wrote the Bible, angels and presumably demons, can take both physical and non-physical form, although I have my own theories on that. There are tales of them smply disappearing from sight. But, again, that just means they could not be seen, not necessarily that they were not there - Balaam's donkey again.

But ghosts are in the image of dead people and cannot take physical form at will therefore ghosts and angels are not the same thing.

Unless ghosts are angels pretending to be dead people and in their non-corporeal form, which is odd. Why would they do that?
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