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Richard Dawkins vs John Lennox

Richard Dawkins vs John Lennox

Postby moogdroog » October 30th, 2008, 10:49 am

Maybe old news, but...

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Postby postodave » October 30th, 2008, 12:57 pm

Well that's interesting. I wonder where this is all going.
I had noticed a change in Dawkin's views. In River out of Eden he says that the question of why there is something rather than nothing there is a meaningless existential question - presumably a criticism of Sartre who said it was the most important metaphysical question. More recently he has said it is something scientists are working on. Now I can see which bit of scientific work he was referring to. Does this imply that a question changes its status and becomes meaningful once there is a possibility of a scientific answer?
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Postby postodave » October 30th, 2008, 6:39 pm

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Postby girlfreddy » October 30th, 2008, 11:03 pm

I just finished watching the first video also. What a treat it was, watching two highly intelligent people debate such a subject.

Anyway, my impression tended to lean towards Dawkins being quite surprised at not winning every point, as I'm sure he is usually able to. Lennox was relaxed, disciplined and quite adept at listening to each and every point that Dawkins expounded upon, and then argued or agreed in such a passionate way, and yet still countered Dawkins well.

One thing that did stick in my mind was where Dawkins spoke of "faith vs. evidence" (about a 1/3 of the way through) and Lennox kind of nailed him on it a bit. Kind of funny really, for I've heard that argument used often.

Although I had to pause this half-way to run out a get a Halloween costume for my great-niece and therefore didn't really get the full effect of it, I still quite enjoyed myself.

Makes me wonder if the Oxford debate is online too.
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Postby postodave » November 3rd, 2008, 12:07 am

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Postby postodave » November 3rd, 2008, 6:11 pm

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Postby girlfreddy » November 4th, 2008, 2:58 am

How would telling people to be nice to one another get a man crucified? What government would execute Mister Rogers or Captain Kangaroo?
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Postby splashen » November 15th, 2008, 2:36 am

In the article, Richard Dawkins says, "A seriou case could be made for a deistic God."

WHAT?!?! The anti-theist atheist admits there is a possibility for God?!?!

Well what do you think about that?!?! I've read bits & pieces of his work The God Delusion before, & he practically belittles religious believers, & has even argued that atheists should be referred to as brights.

Is he now backpeddling(even if he is admitting the possibility for a deistic God)?!?!
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Postby postodave » November 15th, 2008, 10:46 am

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Postby Lioba » November 15th, 2008, 2:17 pm

Iustitia est ad alterum.
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Postby alecto » November 15th, 2008, 2:30 pm

Sentio ergo est.
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Postby postodave » November 15th, 2008, 4:02 pm

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Dawkins and Lennox on Premier

Postby postodave » November 15th, 2008, 10:15 pm

And then there is this:
[url]http://www.premierradio.org.uk/listen/ondemand.aspx?mediaid={6F957207-7564-4B70-AA1E-AD9474E8C768}[/url]
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Postby Jservic2 » November 16th, 2008, 7:12 am

hmmmm
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Postby Lioba » November 16th, 2008, 6:59 pm

Iustitia est ad alterum.
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