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To Change The Past

Re: To Change The Past

Postby Karen » December 18th, 2008, 8:22 pm

I always did like that episode (TOS - haven't seen the others). Spock with a beard was very sexy! :snow-wink:
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby Stanley Anderson » December 18th, 2008, 10:42 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby Adam Linton » December 18th, 2008, 11:38 pm

we have not loosely through silence permitted things to pass away as in a dream
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby Lioba » December 19th, 2008, 11:30 am

A little sidetrack- does anyone know the book or film Momo by Michael Ende?
Some beautiful thoughts about time in general:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZMOEX0f ... re=related
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Re: To Change The Past

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Re: To Change The Past

Postby hammurabi2000 » December 19th, 2008, 5:01 pm

I think Einstein said you can slow or stop time but not reverse it. The past is the past and cannot be changed; if it could we would live in chaos because it would be constantly changing.

To attempt to change the past is to inject your views and morality into somewhere different just like a colonial power.

As the say the past is a foreign country: they do things differently there. I would not want to be involved in changing anything.
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby Karen » December 19th, 2008, 6:03 pm

I have always imagined that paradise will be a kind of library. -- Jorge Luis Borges
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby archenland_knight » December 19th, 2008, 6:09 pm

Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
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Re: To Change The Past

Postby Stanley Anderson » December 19th, 2008, 7:05 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Re: To Change The Past

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Re: To Change The Past

Postby girlfreddy » December 20th, 2008, 1:39 pm

Hi people. Just a short thought on this. What if someone already went back and changed history? eg: Lincoln lived through the Booth attempt, but in the "alternate" reality, Lincoln ended up creating a US that was not condusive to a true "free" nation? What if Hitler did win the war and the resulting genocidal dictatorship created a world in which no human was free at all (Big Brother at its worst)? In essence, someone already went back and changed these two events so that Lincoln did die and Hitler lost the war.

It seems that we consider the changing of the past in direct relation to how we perceive "evil", and that to change the past we always want to change what we think were "evil" acts, rather than accepting that we many not really know what is evil and what isn't. We ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil rather than the tree of life, and therefore we get all caught up in the defining of evil and good. This basic presumption precipitates all manner of strange thinking processes that preclude a delving into the possibility that someone may have already changed the past, and that the events we think happened (defined as "evil" by this aforementioned presumption) were, in actuality, the lesser of two evils so-to-speak.

Not sure if I explained this idea right. Is it clear what I'm trying to say?
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