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Edited Title: The war of modernity vs paradosis

PostPosted: June 13th, 2009, 4:32 am
by rusmeister

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 13th, 2009, 12:09 pm
by Sven
Split and moved here.

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 13th, 2009, 1:53 pm
by Bluegoat
Beards are an interesting topic; we think a lot about women wearing headcoverings, but in some religions and cultures, men are equally expected to grow a beard.

Of course this brings up a number of possible difficulties. Some ethnic groups have no facial hair, and there are lots of men, my husband being one, who would look like a leper if he tried to grow out his beard. A Muslim acquaintance of mine, who lives in a place where beards are expected, has a husband who is unable to grow a full beard due to facial scarring, and he gets comments from those who suppose that he is a "liberal" or not pious, or simply not manly.

I always enjoy Roald Dahls description of beards at the beginning of the book The Twits, though. It's clearly anti-beard, but very amusing.

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 13th, 2009, 5:51 pm
by Stanley Anderson

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 13th, 2009, 9:43 pm
by Bluegoat

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 15th, 2009, 2:14 am
by JRosemary

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 16th, 2009, 11:37 am
by Bluegoat

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 16th, 2009, 12:41 pm
by alecto
My word. I come back after months and we're talking about beards. Facial hair!

And it has caused Rus to:

1 - Call "rough" and "messy" relative terms.
2 - Get vague about common definitions of hiegiene (A sour beard is one from which food has not been cleaned.)
3 - Attack modern women's movements (and at the same time refusing to understand modern times in favor of older ones, perhaps?)
4 - Assume that redefining cultural adjuncts to sexuality equals redefining sexuality
5 - Ignore that some aspects of "sex differences" are unjust imposition of power
6 - Invoke sex change operations
7 - Attack homosexuality as evil
8 - Raise clothing to the level of body parts in determining sex
9 - Infer that sexual equality equals sexual separation
10 - Infer that women's rights (or at least Womens Studies) necessitates divorce
11 - Suggest that civil rights are opposed to Divine right, or perhaps that the Orthodox have already figured out what God thinks is right, while the rest of us have not
12 - Extend opinions about hair and college courses to the level of being anti-God
13 - Assume the motivating desires of Women's movements are perverted
14 - Invoke the issue of hair covering
15 - Assume that issues about hair covering are based on issues with male dominance
16 - Bring up same-sex unions

You would think that concern about hair is a very pillar of Orthodoxy.

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 16th, 2009, 2:05 pm
by Stanley Anderson

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 16th, 2009, 6:32 pm
by cyranorox

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 17th, 2009, 2:37 am
by rusmeister

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 17th, 2009, 6:43 pm
by cyranorox
Alecto, Rus and I share human nature, interest in CSL, reasoning, and examining ideas. I don't know your faith or membership, Alecto, and don't want to conclude to much from the Fury name. But if we want to be ecumenical, and you represent the eumenides, together we can form
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Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 18th, 2009, 2:48 am
by rusmeister

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 18th, 2009, 10:53 am
by Bluegoat

Re: Edited Title: Beards

PostPosted: June 19th, 2009, 3:12 am
by rusmeister