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Inconsistency?

Postby Danman » 30 Jul 2008, 18:21

Oh goody, I found a place where I can post this question. Here I am again, as in the CON forum, with a question about an inconsistency, this time in LOTR.

I just today finished reading 'The Fellowship' again. I noticed that when Lady Galadriel gives Sam her present, she tells him that his garden will bloom like no other and will give him a vision of Lorien in it's Spring an Summer 'which are now past and never shall come again' (or something like that).

What happens in Lorien, then, in the years that follow before Galadriel leaves Middle Earth with Frodo, Bilbo, etc.? Does Lorien just lie in Winter ever after? I'm sure there's some explanation in the notes somewhere if I'd just take the time to read them. I'm hoping someone can clear this up. Perhaps she was just speaking figuratively, or with a negative, hopeless view of the future that immediately lie ahead?

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And as He spoke He no longer looked to them like a lion; But the things that began to happen after that were so great and beautiful that I cannot write them.
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Postby galion » 30 Jul 2008, 22:07

Well, as Galadriel says, Lothlorien is already in its (figurative) autumn. However, as long as she remains there, with the Elven-ring, it will deteriorate no further. But as is made clear, after she departs, it goes into a sharp decline - perhaps the winter of Lorien?

Well, that's my view. However, this and many other matters are discussed in depth on a site you might think it interesting to look at:
http://www.lotrplaza.com/forum/default.asp
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Postby A#minor » 31 Jul 2008, 21:38

I think she must've been speaking figuratively of the eminent departure of all elves, and the diminishing of her own power once the Ring was destroyed and her own ring lost most of its potency.
I'm sure the seasons passed as usual in Lorien, but perhaps not as beautifully.
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Postby Adam Linton » 31 Jul 2008, 22:16

A#minor wrote:I'm sure the seasons passed as usual in Lorien, but perhaps not as beautifully.


And I also thought that there would be a remaining (although gradually fading) particular blessedness to it.
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Postby A#minor » 01 Aug 2008, 01:11

Ah, good word to describe it! "Blessedness." I like that. :pleased:
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