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Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: March 29th, 2010, 6:38 pm
by Kanakaberaka

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: March 29th, 2010, 6:45 pm
by narnia56
Yeah! nice story! and but I did not read chapter 1 I only read chapter 7.

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: March 30th, 2010, 8:39 am
by Kanakaberaka
I have a lot more to say about part 2 of this chapter. But I did not have time to post it all today. I hope to post the rest by tomorrow.

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: March 31st, 2010, 7:00 am
by agingjb
Was Ransom's "Stop it" directed at Jane?

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: March 31st, 2010, 10:15 am
by Kanakaberaka

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 1st, 2010, 2:31 am
by Matthew Whaley
Every time I've read that passage I thought Ransom was speaking to the Eldils. But Kanakaberaka is right about Jane falling under the Directors spell. If his unearthly charisma is a gift from God, he has to be very careful not to take liberties with it. He may be tempted to use that gift for his own comfort and enrichment. Mr. Fisher-King is not immune to temptation, and could easily fall into sin by coveting another mans wife. He could be correcting himself as well as Jane, even if the words "stop it" were directed at Jane.

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 1st, 2010, 8:35 am
by agingjb
Indeed. I have always supposed that "Stop it!" was an exorcism.

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 3rd, 2010, 5:44 am
by Kanakaberaka

Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 4th, 2010, 5:02 pm
by Kanakaberaka

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 4th, 2010, 5:39 pm
by Matthew Whaley
I was also thinking of the prophet Isaiah when he was transported into God's throneroom; he said, " Woe is me I am undone.."

God's presence or reflection

PostPosted: April 4th, 2010, 7:25 pm
by Kanakaberaka

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 10th, 2010, 5:38 pm
by Matthew Whaley
Do you think that maybe Jane was espeacially vulnerable to Ransom's charisma because in her marriage with Mark she is starved for affection?
I can't help but think that if Mark and Jane were enjoying each other as married lovers she would not have "caved in" so easily. Jane's education and experience have contributed to her view of men; she does not want to have to depend on them for anything. Her thinking is that she is not going to let any man define for her who she is; not even Mark. She thinks shes knows what is in a man. Then suddenly she meets the ideal man; more masculine, more powerful than she ever imagined a man could be, yet chaste and meek.

Re: Chapter 7 - part 2

PostPosted: April 11th, 2010, 3:11 am
by Kanakaberaka