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Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 13th, 2010, 8:54 am
by agingjb
Just as, at least in the Inferno, some of Dante's characters seem to remained fixed on the politics of thirteenth century Florence, here the shades are, despite the elapse of subjective time, very much fixed on the concerns and in the attitudes of early twentieth century England.

Blake, perhaps, is part of the allusion of the distorted faces:

"And mark in every face I meet, Marks of weakness, marks of woe."

I suppose, since CSL was not a fan of T.S.Eliot's poetry, the lines from Animula:

"Issues from the hand of time the simple soul
Irresolute and selfish, misshapen, lame,
Unable to fare forward or retreat,
Fearing the warm reality, the offered good,"


are not relevant.

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 14th, 2010, 3:25 pm
by cyranorox
Ah TSE! [phonetics and acronyms don't mix]. so masculine in outlook the birth from a hand is no jar; the faults that mar a man disconnectedly jarring with the helplessness of a newborn. At least, I see a baby, blamed for not making a decision and getting up, like a man; I think he did not.

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 14th, 2010, 5:13 pm
by agingjb

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 25th, 2010, 5:41 pm
by Matthew Whaley

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 25th, 2010, 9:56 pm
by agingjb
Well yes, but since I haven't a clue whether Cyranorox's post:

"Ah TSL. so masculine in outlook the birth from a hand is no jar; the faults that mar a man disconnectedly jarring with the helplessness of a newborn. At least, I see a baby, blamed for not making a decision and getting up, like a man; I think he did not."

is a comprehensive put down of CSL, TSE, a familiar compound poet, or just my reference to Animula, I really don't think I should comment.

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 31st, 2010, 5:46 pm
by Matthew Whaley

Re: Chapter 2 - The Bus Ride

PostPosted: July 31st, 2010, 6:35 pm
by paminala
I wondered if it were the light and the fact that the air was fresh and clean that they objected to. Since they are permeated with the miasma that is the substance of the Town, such an atmosphere would feel alien and scary.
That same remark struck me "Do you want us to catch our death?" I think they were more likely to catch on to their death and being (as many of them are) in denial of their circumstances they would recoil from that.