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a two-tiered question.

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a two-tiered question.

Postby Hector's House » December 13th, 2005, 6:05 pm

The first tier:
Earlier today, at school a mate and myself posted a question regarding Lewis' conversion, related to the writings of Rudolf Otto and William James. I've done a search for it, and it seems to have gone. Where? I don't know. My first guess is that it may have been deleted by the moderators.

The second tier: asking the question again:

How far do you think Lewis' conversion agrees with what William James and Rudolf Otto write about religious experience?
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re: a two-tiered question.

Postby carol » December 13th, 2005, 6:20 pm

Can you give us a quick summary of what these people wrote? I've never heard of them. (On the other hand, if we don't come up with anything here, info about Lewis' conversion is easily available - eg "Surprised by Joy", his own spiritual autobiography.)
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Postby Bill » December 13th, 2005, 6:23 pm

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Postby Hector's House » December 13th, 2005, 6:48 pm

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Re: re: a two-tiered question.

Postby mjmann » December 13th, 2005, 7:17 pm

Rudolph Otto wrote a book called The Idea of the Holy, which Lewis named as being one of (the ten) books that most influenced him.
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Postby Karen » December 13th, 2005, 7:35 pm

William James (brother of Henry) wrote The Varieties of Religious Experience, a study in the psychology of religion.
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Postby Roonwit » December 13th, 2005, 10:27 pm

:grin:

Someone mentioned Rudolf Otto!!!!! I knew this was one of the best forums on the net!!!!!!!!!!

I love Otto, first read him in college and have recently read Idea of the Holy again...

Otto stated that religion is a group of emotions. You don't follow in a religion because of what you get out of it in a material sense but more in a way of how it makes you feel.

He goes on to explain that everything that we have to say about God is rational. However, everything about God is (in a sense) irrational meaning that to experience the Holy (numinous) can't be described truthfully because how it effects a person can't be described in words.

....... in a nutshell :p
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Re: a two-tiered question.

Postby Paul F. Ford » December 14th, 2005, 5:41 pm

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Postby Sven » December 14th, 2005, 9:47 pm

Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
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Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby Hector's House » December 14th, 2005, 11:18 pm

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Postby Karen » December 14th, 2005, 11:23 pm

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Postby Hector's House » December 14th, 2005, 11:51 pm

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Re: a two-tiered question.

Postby wood-maid » December 21st, 2005, 7:57 pm

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Re: a two-tiered question.

Postby Paul F. Ford » December 23rd, 2005, 6:22 pm

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Postby wood-maid » December 25th, 2005, 12:37 am

Thanks, that was my question! I'd prefer the original, I think our local Christian bookstore has it. I especially like the scripture references you have, as I noticed when flipping through it. It's nice to have everything all together, to reference.
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