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Have you experienced Joy

The man. The myth.

Have you ever experienced what Lewis calls joy?

Yes, and I think it is spiritually significant
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Yes, but I atatch no spiritual significance to it
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No, I have never had the experience.
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Re: Have you experienced Joy

Postby Áthas » 25 Mar 2009, 23:16

Well, I have to admit I might have been a little extreme in my response. I've heard to many people say only Christians were entitled to it.

I remember this quote in the movie "Shadowlands" where Jack tells the students about longing for something and never getting there. And it describes my experience very well. We will never have completion in this life, never be able to know everything, learn everything, never reach the ultimate point at which we can say "I'm done. This is where I wanted to get, now I can stop trying." Whenever I learn something new, it opens up a whole new word for me and I'm beginning to long for so much more. And that happens with many situations. One thing leads to the next and just when you thought you were close to reaching what you wanted to have, what you'd been longing for, you realize your're far away from it again because something new comes up which you strive for again. And that's life. That's what motivates me to do my very best to make progress in every way I can (and I still fail way too often) and to never stop growing in every way (except maybe for the physical way, that stopped when I was 13 and I don't think I can hope to ever get taller than the 165 cm I've been stuck with for a decade! :wink: )

Thus, I also see Joy as sign posts along the way, inspiring me to keep going. I know that at the age of 24 that might sound like I was talking ab out something I still know hardly anything about, but I know someone who is about 20 years older than I and more or less told me the same thing not long ago and she's a very imresssive person.

I just don't think the "unreachable" necessarily needs to be God or Heaven. I have quite a vivid imagination and I'm very certain that there is a lot more out there than we know here on erath... maybe planets with intelligent life which might be much more beautiful, cleaner and a lot more peaceful than earth, dimensions we don't know anything of and maybe even Heaven... the possibilities are endless. The point is that there is something out there which is a lot greater than we will ever be able to imagine and which we will never be able to reach and even though I kn ow that, these moments of Joy keep making me want to try.
To thine own self be true!!! (Shakespeare)
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Postby Periel Andae » 27 Apr 2009, 14:57

amanda m. wrote:
My clearest and most poignant "joy" experiences happened during my childhood. At that point, the only way I could articulate it was to describe it as Deja Vu, but I knew it was different; it was accompanied with such a strong sense of something larger than life waiting just out of reach. (Something I knew I should understand and just couldn't...but something that could answer the great question of life, the universe, and everything.)


I could agree more with what Amanda M. says. The rest of her post too... Her description best describes my feelings of Joy. It is very similar to Deja Vu, this feeling that what I'm looking at, remembering, reading, experiencing somehow has intense significance. The waving field of grain, the horse running into the sunset, the favorite childhood toy, that real moment in the story triggers the feeling that there is meaning in this. There IS something that the physical tree (or childhood memory, piece of music, etc) are just symbols for.

My idea of heaven is that we will experience the meaning & significance of things. If there are no trees in heaven, it is because the beauty we long for when seeing that perfect oak will be real and permanent and better understood in heaven, with real trees for which our trees were only the symbol.

I should shut up now. In trying to articulate what Joy is to me, I babble and don't give it justice. In both Surprised by Joy and some of the ending scenes of The Last Battle, Lewis expresses this best.
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Re: Have you experienced Joy

Postby LittleFlower » 01 Sep 2009, 08:39

I was very interested to read what CS Lewis wrote about this... I never had a name for it.

I experienced this 'Joy' sometimes before I became a Christian, but now I don't anymore. I have a longing for God but it feels different.. before, it was like I was looking at nature, listening to music, and being reminded of "something" and I didn't know what it was... much like what Lewis describes. Now I know what it is, I know that it is Him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it became less "transcendent" and more concrete, specific.

Interesting thread :)
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Re: Have you experienced Joy

Postby historyb » 25 Sep 2009, 05:58

Joy? Pray tell what it is, I desire such
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Re: Have you experienced Joy

Postby maralewisfan » 02 Nov 2009, 15:37

While reading these posts the idea that came to me was one of hearing a song sung in such a passion filled way, in such a voice as to give me goosebumps and bring tears to my eyes all at the same time. It felt like being transported somewhere else, without others around and being filled completely.
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