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Time and Truth

PostPosted: December 31st, 2009, 12:26 am
by richard_dawkins

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: December 31st, 2009, 5:34 pm
by archenland_knight

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 12:05 am
by richard_dawkins

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 1:30 am
by john
Gentlemen,

If you wish to argue about the existence of God, then you'll have to find some place else (meaning outside the Wardrobe) to do it.

archenland_knight, you should know better than to engage a troll.

richard_dawkins, if you have come here to "show those silly Christians a thing or two", then you've chosen the wrong place. I am not a Christian myself, but I do not tolerate this kind of behavior here. Find another forum.

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 3:43 am
by AllanS
Hi John,

I also have grown weary of such arguments. They rarely go anywhere but downhill. Where did Jesus debate such things?

A friend of mine (a ship-wrecked alien from the planet Zorf) disbelieves in the color Red. Neither argument nor reason has the power to convey Red to him. I have concluded that unless he experiences Red directly, he can have no knowledge of it. Poor fellow.

In the same way, neither argument nor reason has the power to open a person's eyes to God. Revelation is an elemental perception. Faith is a gift. You either have it or you don't. As Pascal said, "The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing."

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 4:22 pm
by john
Allan,

While I appreciate that you agree with me, you really just continued the argument -- one that I said must stop.

Kind regards.

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 6:43 pm
by archenland_knight

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 3rd, 2010, 9:00 pm
by AllanS

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 4:51 am
by richard_dawkins

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 5:47 am
by richard_dawkins

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 5:51 am
by john
You register with the name of a famous atheist, and your first post is an attack on something that is over 3 years old. We have a code of conduct, and your antagonistic fight-picking approach is inappropriate. Any respectful debate needs to stay on topic within the thread and forum it's being posted in.

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 6:11 am
by richard_dawkins

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 6:32 am
by john
If I come across as aggressive, it's because I have a duty to protect the tone of these forums. We are a community based on tolerance and acceptance -- not everybody agrees with everybody else, of course, but we don't actively seek out to argue our points with one another. I have no problem with respectful discussions that are specifically about C. S. Lewis' writings, but I will not allow it to deviate too far into irrelevance.

We did have a forum that allowed most topics of religion, science and philosophy (which you've referred to, in the archives). That had to be closed because it was a breeding ground for intolerance and poor conduct. So, yes, those topics are closed.

If your main interest in being here is because you're a non-Christian who wishes to discuss and debate the doctrines and practices of Christianity, then there are many other forums that will serve you better.

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 6:40 am
by Adam Linton
"richard_dawkins":

In a purely unofficial capacity, but as a member here, I'll add a note of my own:

As you are evidently checking out the Wardrobe, you surely will review both "Announcements and Support" and also the archived sections (including "Religion, Science, & Philosophy"). I trust in doing so that you will find it evident that the Wardrobe, quite specifically and deliberately, is not an instrument for debate; nor--frankly--probably the most congenial place for the debate hungry. This is a site--of course, gathered around varying appreciations of C. S. Lewis--rather geared toward the informational, reflective, conversational, and social. This clarity has been rather extensively worked through here in the last year.

Regards.

Now, back to Questions about the Screwtape Letters...

Re: Questions about The Screwtape Letters

PostPosted: January 4th, 2010, 7:57 am
by richard_dawkins