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Thoughts on The Last Battle

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Thoughts on The Last Battle

Postby Guest » November 15th, 2004, 2:00 pm

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Postby Stanley Anderson » November 15th, 2004, 3:25 pm

[from EmmaG]:
>Calormen is a pretty obviously Arab world, is Lewis telling us that Allah
>= Tash = a cruel devil god? I imagine he was not keen on inter-faith
>understanding!

Do you find it at all interesting that Lewis used a Turkish word for god-like creature in the book? I'm not talking about Tash of course, but the other guy. "Aslan" is the Turkish word (or at least a variation of) for "lion", and it is this creature who is the Redeemer of the Narnian world.

>In the context of a children's story it is perhaps allowable
>to have a 'good' country and a 'bad' country

I wonder which country you see in the book as the "bad" country? In The Revelation of John in the Bible we read that God would that we were either hot or cold. But if we are luke-warm he will spit us out of his mouth. In The Last Battle, it is Narnia itself that is the luke-warm country. The Calormenes are able to invade Narnia because the Narnians have become luke warm and complacent.

One of the common errors people make in reading the Chronicles of Narnia is that they see the stories as we good people against those bad guys out there. But it is almost never true in the books. In LWW, it is not the White Witch that causes the primary problem, but Edmund's betrayal that prevents the children from fulfilling the prophesy easily. In Magician's Nephew it is not Jadis that initiates the bad things, but Digory in striking the bell. Jill and Eustace in not reciting the four signs as they have been commanded are the ones who hinder the task they are on by missing the signs, etc, etc. Yes there are "bad guys out there" too in the books, but it is "we good guys" who invariably "bring it on" to ourselves.

And isn't it interesting that at the end of The Last Battle, when Lucy is surveying the New Narnia in Heaven, she sees afar off, Tashbaan as part of the new creation.

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Re: Thoughts on The Last Battle

Postby Guest » November 15th, 2004, 3:56 pm

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'd forgotten that Narnia was itself at fault - we're only a few chapters in, so perhaps it will come clear.

And very interesting that many of the 'bad guys' couldn't have done it without the inadvertent help of 'good guys' slipping. I'll try and impress that on Emily when it becomes clear in the book.
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Re: Thoughts on The Last Battle

Postby Sven » November 15th, 2004, 9:25 pm

Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby Erekose » November 16th, 2004, 12:32 pm

Call yourself a dog???? I've seen better hair on a lavatory brush!!!
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Postby Alan » November 16th, 2004, 4:20 pm

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Postby Sven » November 26th, 2004, 12:39 am

Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby a_hnau » January 3rd, 2005, 11:17 am

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Re: Thoughts on The Last Battle

Postby loeee » January 3rd, 2005, 10:04 pm

"You can't go walking through Mordor in naught but your skin."
Put on the full armor of God.
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Re: Thoughts on The Last Battle

Postby Alan » January 4th, 2005, 1:32 pm

People keep writing that the Calormenes were 'Arabic'.

I'm not sure that we are right to make that assumption.

The only person to attribute any Arabic qualities to the Calormenes was Pauline Baynes the illustrator.
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