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Postby Guest » 07 Aug 2007, 22:48

Danman wrote:Ok, was that an "oops" on Lewis' part? When do you think MN took place? Seems late 1800's to me considering the cabby and all. Maybe, just maybe there was time for the pirates to find the island, etc... and with Narnian time being different from our own. Hmm, that is a bit of a bugger.


The "official" timeline says Digory and Polly journeyed to Narnia in the year 1900 (England time).

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Postby Danman » 15 Aug 2007, 20:06

Since this thread is about our general disgust with publisher playing with the correct order of the books, I'd just like to take a moment and comment a bit further.

I feel sorry for those who didn't get to read the stories in the 'right' order. They missed out on some really fun discoveries. They're almost like Dr. Cornelius. They have some dwarf in them, but not fully. Of course, they can't help their lineage. What I mean is, they are fans and all, but they can't go back and experience the books for the first time in the way they were written. They've forever missed something great - and it's not their fault.

Now, if you happen to be a Dr. Cornelius, please don't take umbrage with me. I don't mean any harm. Remember, Dr. Cornelius was very important in the whole scheme of the war and getting Caspian on the throne. He saved the boy's life, for cryin out loud!

The other thing is the whole... Maugrim thing. I'm sorry, his name was Fenris Ulf. I understand the play on words and why it's appropriate for a wolf (Maw Grim... an evil mouth, etc.), but it takes away from the fanciful and otherworldly sense that you get from a name like Fenris Ulf. Again, it jus' aint right.

Truly, it peeves me greatly that some publisher thought it'd be better to mess with the order. For crying out loud, did he read the books at all or just go on what some lackey down in copy told him? I almost feel like it's a violation, literary vandalism let's call it!

Sigh. Of course, what's done is done. No use fretting over it now. I just wanted to vent a little. Thanks for reading, my friends.
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Postby A#minor » 15 Aug 2007, 21:37

Literary Vandalism! I like that phrase. That's exactly what it is too.
I'm going to make some signatures that say, "Protest against Literary Vandalism!"
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Postby Danman » 15 Aug 2007, 22:28

That's GREAT! :lol: I love it... I get first dibbs!
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Postby A#minor » 16 Aug 2007, 15:33

Here are a few. Poor "evil-minded" Faramir; disappearing Bombadil; mistreated Phillip, the Talking Horse; and the cowardly, indecisive Peter on the River. More to come.


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Postby Danman » 16 Aug 2007, 15:48

(sing-song voice) LOooooooove It!!!! :toothy-grin:
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Postby honeybeex3JC » 27 Sep 2007, 10:28

hi everyone :smile:
super new to this and i just stumbled upon this, err, thread (?) while on this site. i think this is really cool. haven't really been a hardcore fan of TCoN books but you guys seem so dedicated to 'em (and actually the books were pretty good, i just haven't gotten around to reading them much) that i've decided to get back on it and read them the way you guys are suggesting, that is, the 2456317 way.

p.s. the tshirts and the song were really cool! and i think the sigs are awesome, A#m! :toothy-grin: good job!
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Postby A#minor » 27 Sep 2007, 21:31

honeybeex3JC wrote: and i think the sigs are awesome, A#m! :toothy-grin: good job!

Thanks, glad to see you are using one! :blush: Welcome to the Club!
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Postby David Jack » 28 Sep 2007, 20:29

Danman wrote:The other thing is the whole... Maugrim thing. I'm sorry, his name was Fenris Ulf. I understand the play on words and why it's appropriate for a wolf (Maw Grim... an evil mouth, etc.), but it takes away from the fanciful and otherworldly sense that you get from a name like Fenris Ulf. Again, it jus' aint right.


wasn't maugrim the original name, with fenris ulf being substituted for the american editions? i'm pretty sure that's right because it's still maugrim in all the copies over here, as far as i'm aware.

you have my support over the book order though. it bothers me less than tampering with the content of the sacred writings themselves, but i still see no reason for such interference. the only time 'abridgements' are ever justifiable is when they make books which would otherwise be too challenging more accessible to younger readers.
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Postby carol » 29 Sep 2007, 01:43

Plenty of people hate the change back to Maugrim - but it WAS the original.
I sympathise, preferring not to have to change from "my" way of knowing or using things.
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Postby Ticket2theMoon » 04 Oct 2007, 05:17

Is Maugrim really the original name? I never knew that! I was mad at the movie people for changing it! Why do they change things for the American editions of British books? Do they think we can't handle it? It's the same thing with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone. We're not really as stupid or apathetic as they think we are, are we? I don't mind the changes in slang and terminology; that almost falls into the catagory of translation, especially when we're talking about books for younger readers. But this is more serious in my opinion. Changing a character name changes the character.
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Postby john » 04 Oct 2007, 15:38

At least the publishers didn't go with their original idea of changing Puddleglum's name to Stanley Anderson. :whistle:
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Postby Stanley Anderson » 04 Oct 2007, 18:22

john wrote:At least the publishers didn't go with their original idea of changing Puddleglum's name to Stanley Anderson. :whistle:


They probably thought it would too radically change the reader's impression of the nature of the character *recalls the onscreen change to Faramir's character in the LotR movie*:-)

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Postby john » 20 Oct 2007, 19:17

Alright...who stole our idea and made a Facebook group called The 2456317 Club ?!

C'mon, Angie Hedahl from Fargo, ND...fess up!
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Postby A#minor » 20 Oct 2007, 22:11

You are mentioned on there Dr. Z. Is that official though? They can't just start up a Facebook in our name without getting club approval!

I mean, I'm all for expanding our club, but at least let us know about it, Angie Hedahl from Fargo, ND. :tsk:
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