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White Witch

Postby bekkah2008 » April 1st, 2006, 10:18 pm

"When Adam's flesh and Adam's bone
Sits at Cair Paravel in throne,
The evil time will be over and done.

"So things must be drawing near their end now he's come and you've come. We've heard of Aslan coming into these parts before--long ago, nobody can say when. But there's never been any of your race here before."

"That's what I don't understand, Mr. Beaver," said Peter. "I mean isn't the Witch herself human?"

"She'd like us to believe it," said Mr. Beaver, "and it's on that that she bases her claim to be Queen. But she's no Daughter of Eve. She comes of your father Adam's"--here Mr. Beaver bowed--"your father Adam's first wife, her they called Lilith. And she was one of the Jinn. That's what she comes from on one side. And on the other she comes of the giants. No, no, there isn't a drop of real human blood in the Witch."

"That's why she's bad all through, Mr. Beaver," said Mrs. Beaver.

"True enough, Mrs. Beaver," replied he. "There may be two views about humans (meaning no offence to the present company), but there's no two views about things that look like humans and aren't."




Did you know that Lilth was Adam's first wife in Genesis?
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re: White Witch

Postby Sven » April 1st, 2006, 10:21 pm

A belated welcome, bekkah, I should have said so before :)

Acutally, Lilith isn't Adam's first wife in Genesis, she doesn't appear in the Bible at all. Except possibly as a mistranslation of a word for a bird. Rather the Lilith story originates in some medival Jewish mythology.
Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby bekkah2008 » April 1st, 2006, 10:22 pm

well i came across it a few times when i was looking at the white witch for my research paper
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Postby Sven » April 1st, 2006, 10:23 pm

Not in Genesis, you didn't.
Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby A#minor » April 1st, 2006, 11:38 pm

Lilith is a myth. Adam only had one wife and that was Eve.
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Postby David » April 1st, 2006, 11:45 pm

Perhaps she is simply claiming to be human. Could it be that the inhabitants of Cairn came from Earth somehow, just as the Telmarines got into Narhia from earth?
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re: White Witch

Postby Erekose » April 2nd, 2006, 12:04 am

Call yourself a dog???? I've seen better hair on a lavatory brush!!!
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Re: re: White Witch

Postby Theo » April 2nd, 2006, 6:48 am

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Postby David » April 2nd, 2006, 11:40 am

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Re: re: White Witch

Postby Sven » April 2nd, 2006, 11:58 am

Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby Theo » April 2nd, 2006, 6:31 pm

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re: White Witch

Postby cbs30954 » April 4th, 2006, 3:02 am

Wikipedia says . It says specifically that "Lilith is a female Mesopotamian night demon believed to harm male children." Interesting....
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Postby WalkingEagle » April 11th, 2006, 4:44 pm

C.S. Lewis just knew that the entire world has fallen down the rabbit hole. How deep? No one WANTS to know.
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Postby robsia » April 11th, 2006, 5:13 pm

Read the Magician's Nephew - that tells you how she got into Narnia.
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Postby WalkingEagle » April 11th, 2006, 8:27 pm

C.S. Lewis just knew that the entire world has fallen down the rabbit hole. How deep? No one WANTS to know.
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