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A variety of things I realized yesterday...

Postby Lady Rebecca » July 14th, 2006, 4:53 am

"Well, you know how it feels if you begin hoping for something that you want desperately badly; you almost fight against the hope because it is too good to be true; you've been disappointed so often before. But it was no good trying to throttle this hope. It might - really, really, it just might be true. So many odd things had happened already." - from the magician's nephew

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Postby Pete » July 14th, 2006, 5:03 am

Interesting that you mention this topic, Lady Rebecca, I'm not going to comment much on this topic right now, (as I need to think about it more! :lol:) apart from to say that I think both the BBC version of LW&W and the movie covered the issue of those who are turned into stone well. Why do I say that? Well you'll recall the scene in the BBC version where the Witch turns the Christmas party into stone. Look carefully in the crowd at the Witch's castle when Aslan is addressing them after he's unstoned them and you can see the "fox". Also, in the new movie when the Witch turns the centaur Oreius to stone, how you see him a moment later in her castle with the other stone creatures - interesting touch.
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Postby Lady Rebecca » July 14th, 2006, 5:21 am

Actually, I haven't seen the BBC version of the story. :smile:

And, my brother and I have argued and argued about that Orieus scene. He says it's Orieus in the courtyard, and I say, no, it is a different Centaur. Because, at the moment he's turned into stone, he is plunging down, with his sword and head cocked back and to the side at the Witch, whom he just passed. However, the Centaur in the couryard has his sword cocked directly behind his head, and he's looking straight forward. I think the Centaur to Centaur scene switch was just trying to get continuity, without traumatizing people by actually seeing Orieus turned into stone.
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Postby Lady Rebecca » July 14th, 2006, 5:23 am

And also, no other creatures automatically turned up in the Witch's courtyard. The fox didn't. All the creatures she zapped on the battlefield didn't - there were statues all over the place - the satyrs, the gryphons.
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Postby VixenMage » July 14th, 2006, 5:23 am

Hmmmmmmm.

Those two posts are screaming for a heresy. *glances about hopefully* :toothy-grin:

Maybe the reason why Jadis (Jadis... sounds a lot like jade...) uses so much stone is because her heart is stone, in a way... cold, unyielding, and more likely to shatter than melt or bend.
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Postby Lady Rebecca » July 14th, 2006, 5:25 am

"Well, you know how it feels if you begin hoping for something that you want desperately badly; you almost fight against the hope because it is too good to be true; you've been disappointed so often before. But it was no good trying to throttle this hope. It might - really, really, it just might be true. So many odd things had happened already." - from the magician's nephew

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Postby A#minor » July 14th, 2006, 5:33 am

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Postby WolfVanZandt » July 14th, 2006, 6:03 am

I doubt if they would have been conscious of being stone, so, for them, there would have been no elapsed time between bein turned to stone and being unstoned.
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Postby Iris » July 14th, 2006, 6:51 am

Another thing that I just realized was that Jadis, when she went up to Aslan at his camp, the first thing she did was say "you have a traitor in your midst." Hmmm...accusing...Satan is the "accuser of the brethren"...Jadis accuses...hmmm...I see a parallel.

I just didn't happen to notice that before. :D
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Postby carol » July 14th, 2006, 9:21 am

Somewhere in a letter (?reply to a child?), Lewis addressed the question of those who'd been turned to stone and weren't at the Witch's Castle. If I recall correctly, he said that once the Witch's power was broken/when she was dead, all those outside the castle who'd been stone were restored...
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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » July 14th, 2006, 1:49 pm

I always thought the ones in the With's courtyard were simply prisoners brought to the castle and turned to stone there. Thus, the centaur (for instance) who was in the courtyard was not Oreus.

The ones I feel sorry for are the creatures that were broken after being turned to stone--like the gryphons :cry: I loved those in the movie--they were delightful and awesome.
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Postby Stanley Anderson » July 14th, 2006, 2:14 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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