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Of islands and apples

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Of islands and apples

Postby Korora » September 16th, 2006, 1:37 pm

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Postby A#minor » September 16th, 2006, 4:47 pm

Why do you say that? There are no golden gates to go in by at the Deathwater or Dark Islands, and there's no fruit there to steal. Image
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Postby Korora » September 16th, 2006, 8:45 pm

How many people have really wanted some means to make their own gold, or a place for "dreams" to come true? A lot. And remember Reepicheep said Deathwater was a place with a curse on it.

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Postby David » September 17th, 2006, 5:16 pm

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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » September 21st, 2006, 3:45 am

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Re: re: Of islands and apples

Postby David » September 21st, 2006, 12:32 pm

[quote="Messenger_of_Eden"]Well I can see a correlation, though perhaps not intended by Jack. The poem at the Gate of Aslan's Garden is a warning that if we seek the fruit for another's good, then we are welcome, so long as we come by the gate; indeed service to one in need is invitation by Aslan to take the fruit, and a guest invited enters by the front door. quote]

I don't know how directly Jack intended it to be correlated to the Bible. But . . . I remember when Digory goes in, Jadis is there and has eat an apple. She does live forever, but she is a curse not a blessing. This reminds me of the Parable of the Good Shepherd. Jadis came in by "another way," and is not the shepherd, doesn't care for the sheep . . . there are lots of allegorical suggestions here. Maybe Lewis is not alluding to them directly but he is at least evoking them.
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Postby jo » September 24th, 2006, 11:30 am

"I saw it begin,” said the Lord Digory. “I did not think I would live to see it die"

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Postby Stanley Anderson » September 25th, 2006, 2:09 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby carol » September 26th, 2006, 10:13 am

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Postby jo » September 26th, 2006, 10:19 am

Oh I can't resist this ;). I think that if it was really possible to get Jadis back, that would have somehow negated Aslan's power you know? I mean he killed her, he thought that she was dead and he should have known ;)
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Postby Monica » September 26th, 2006, 10:46 am

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Postby jo » September 26th, 2006, 1:40 pm

I would say no :). but it does suggest that the Lady of the Green Girtle is not the White Witch.
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Postby Stanley Anderson » September 26th, 2006, 2:23 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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