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Dear God .. who's responsible for THIS mess?

Postby jo » December 24th, 2006, 12:57 pm

"I saw it begin,” said the Lord Digory. “I did not think I would live to see it die"

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Postby Sven » December 24th, 2006, 2:12 pm

Was it this one?

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Rat! he found breath to whisper, shaking. Are you afraid?
Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
Then the two animals, crouching to the earth, bowed their heads and did worship.
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Postby jo » December 24th, 2006, 3:45 pm

"I saw it begin,” said the Lord Digory. “I did not think I would live to see it die"

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Re: Dear God .. who's responsible for THIS mess?

Postby Stanley Anderson » December 24th, 2006, 3:48 pm

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » December 24th, 2006, 4:16 pm

I think I saw the cartoon on TV once when I was a kid. I tried to watch it but the Tumnus freaked me out. All I remember about the whole thing is this little red devil-faun. But maybe we should give it another chance in our old age :toothy-grin:
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Postby jo » December 24th, 2006, 4:25 pm

I saw it from when they'd just got into Narnia so no, I didn't see the beginning. But it was dire. The animation was dire and the voices was dire - the whole thing was just dire. I know there's no accounting for taste, Stan, but it seems weird to me that you could so comprehensively loathe the LOTR films but praise something like this ;).
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Postby Sven » December 24th, 2006, 5:29 pm

heh, That version won an Emmy for Outstanding Animated Program in 1979.
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Afraid? murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with unutterable love.
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Postby jo » December 24th, 2006, 5:36 pm

You are JOKING. What was the competition?
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Postby Sven » December 24th, 2006, 6:04 pm

...and the other nominees were:

You're the Greatest, Charlie Brown.
Happy Birthday, Charlie Brown.
She's A Good Skate, Charlie Brown.

Methinks good ol' Charlie Brown got a little overexposed that year...
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Afraid! Of Him? O, never, never! And yet -- and yet -- O, Mole, I am afraid!
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Postby Leslie » December 24th, 2006, 6:07 pm

Dig those groovy 70's outfits the Pevensies are wearing!
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Postby jo » December 24th, 2006, 8:20 pm

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Postby Messenger_of_Eden » December 24th, 2006, 8:20 pm

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Postby Stanley Anderson » December 25th, 2006, 12:00 am

…on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a fair green country under a swift sunrise.
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Postby Steve » December 25th, 2006, 7:18 am

Psalm 139:17 How precious to me are your thoughts, God! How vast is the sum of them!
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Postby Pete » December 25th, 2006, 9:14 am

I suppose this is rather unsurprising, but I disagree with Stan about the BBC LWW being emotionally dead...actually, to be honest, I find the '79 animation to be far more emotionally dead than the former. However, I would say that I'd very much agree with Stan's opinion if he said it in reference to PC - that was emotionally dead. :undecided:

Now, in reference to the early "live" version that Stan also referred to - I presume you're meaning the b&w version from around 1967 (if my memory of what I read on here long ago serves me correctly)?

Back to the original topic of this thread - the animation. There are some strengths about it, which I think I should point out and the most obvious (in my opinion) is its closeness to the book - okay so it is a bit American-ized and modernized (in so far as it has the American name of Maugrim, the characters - especially the children have American accents, and the costumes in the animation are clearly 1970s rather than 1940s), but to be honest it is closer to the book than the recent Adamson movie. Another thing I find odd about it though is...why did they take out Father Christmas? I know some people would argue that he is out of place in Narnia (not that I've seen any convincing reason for this argument), but I would say that this makes the animation a little disappointing - also, the fact that they see the White Witch (and vice versa) whilst they're on the run to the Stone Table is also something I don't like about the animation...but I have a similar issue regarding the Adamson movie (why do the Pevensies and the Beavers meet the wolves before they get to Aslan's Camp? I think that's one of the many flaws of the movie.

Okay, so I don't like too many changes from what the book says, so, I'll be honest and say that out of the 3 (Adamson's LWW, BBC's adaption and the animation) my favourite has to be the BBC's production! :coffe:
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