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When do you plan to see Prince Caspian?

Friday, Opening Night!
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21%
Saturday!
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11%
Sunday!
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11%
I don't know, but as soon as I can.
10
21%
I don't know, but it will be out for a while, so I will let the crowds die off first.
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I am fairly indifferent--whenever I see it, I see it.
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11%
I'm waiting for DVD.
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I'm not in the US, and it is not being released for us yet.
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6%
I'm not really interested--I don't plan to see it.
2
4%
 
Total votes : 47

Postby nomad » 17 May 2008, 05:26

I agree mostly with Dan, although Lucy sitting on the stone table didn't bother me. It didn't even occur to me to be bothered.
The added battle scene, though completely invented, at least drove the plot and character development. I've thought before that one of the biggest problems facing the writers/director was the lack of character development of Peter in the books, especially relative to Lucy and Edmond. This scene was one way of solving that. Don't know if it was the best, but it worked for that.

The one thing I will have a very hard time forgiving is the missing romp scene. Why??? It would have translated marvelously to screen. It's like they left out the romp in LWW as well. Are they trading Joy for more battle?
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Postby Sarah N. » 17 May 2008, 05:37

nomad wrote: Are they trading Joy for more battle?


Yes.
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Postby Sarah N. » 17 May 2008, 05:39

CKinna wrote: Of course I can voice many, many complaints, but when all is said and done, many individuals are being introduced to Narnia and Lewis and that is a good thing. I know many of us will want to voice our many let downs and I suppose that is what this forum is for. I still want to stress the positive - the movies are cool and many will read the book for the first time and find an even cooler book. While I was a Narnia reader first I was a LOTR moviegoer before I got around to reading the books, now I am a hooked reader, the films are still cool, but not as cool as the books.


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Postby ArdenZ » 17 May 2008, 05:41

Sarah N. wrote:
nomad wrote: Are they trading Joy for more battle?


Yes.


That stinks. I haven't seen the movie yet, but the scene when Aslan heals Caspian's old nurse at one of the stops on his romp is one of my favorite scenes in all the books.
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Postby nomad » 17 May 2008, 05:52

I'll add that I plan to see it again. It is a good film. I do really like the character development of both Peter and Edmund, much of which comes from added material. More so in Peter's case, but the fight at the beginning was pointless.

And Lucy is still perfect.

I don't mind the flirtation between Susan and Caspian, but the kiss was pretty gratuitous - even the movie didn't get anything from it.

And the dwarf playing Trumpkin was miles better than the one that played the WW's dwarf in LWW. I liked Trumpkin a lot, though I get the feeling much of him ended up on the cutting room floor, which is a shame.

I also liked Caspian's accent.

And I loved Ed's reply when Miraz called him "prince".
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Postby Mornamoice » 17 May 2008, 06:29

We had a great time seeing the movie today at the El Capitan theatre in Hollywood. It was the first time I've been there, but it was an awesome experience.

I went into the theatre fully expecting that the movie would be different from the book. Really, I was expecting the worst, but I was pleasantly surprised.

It did bother me a bit that Lucy was sitting on the stone table, and I really missed the romp too. I had been looking forward to it, but wasn't really surprised they left it out after they made the same mistake in the first movie.

Other than that, I decided that the changes did not damage the movie too much. My kids... purists like me... loved it, though Daniel did make a point after the movie of explaining every detail that had been changed.

I was worried that they might leave out the scene where Reepicheep is brought to Aslan, near death and missing his tail, but they didn't. I loved that scene.

Reepicheep was wonderful, one of my favourites just as he is in the book. I loved Trumpkin, but wished he could have discovered that Aslan was real earlier in the movie, before the battle, as he did in the book.

The dreaded kiss turned out not to be so bad. I didn't mind it, after all; my 10 year old daughter loved it, of course. She thinks Ben Barnes is cute, after all. It's the first movie kiss that hasn't elicited an "ewwwww!" from her. Really, I thought the attraction between Caspian and Susan worked well and was not overdone. The kiss at the end, as far as I'm concerned, worked nicely.

After the movie, we went downstairs in the theatre and looked at props, which was fun. When I can, I'll load my pictures on the comp and post them.

When all is said and done, as usual I prefer the book. But the movie was a lot of fun and a great family outing, and I'm sure when the Extended Edition comes out, we'll be buying a copy.

We had another neat experience, but I think I'll give that its own thread.
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Postby Sven » 17 May 2008, 11:40

Dan65802 wrote:With the Spanish accents, I kept expecting Caspian to say, "Hello. My name is Prince Caspian. You killed my father. Prepare to die."


heh, heh. Perfect. If that had occurred to me, I would have counted Miraz's fingers...
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Postby LordRhoop » 17 May 2008, 12:32

Dan65802 wrote:
With the Spanish accents, I kept expecting Caspian to say, "Hello. My name is Prince Caspian. You killed my father. Prepare to die."


Me too! that ran through my head every time he opened his mouth, and I almost believed that he would say it when he confronted Miraz in his bedroom...at that point all my faith in Adamson was lost and I wouldn't have put it past him.

Lucy sitting on the table bothered me too, I'm glad to know others felt a bit odd about it as well.

I was also not pleased with the changes made to the summoning of the WW scene. Caspian and Peter spent way too long considering that a viable option, it just wasn't right.
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Postby Rosie Cotton » 17 May 2008, 21:24

Sven wrote:
Dan65802 wrote:With the Spanish accents, I kept expecting Caspian to say, "Hello. My name is Prince Caspian. You killed my father. Prepare to die."


heh, heh. Perfect. If that had occurred to me, I would have counted Miraz's fingers...


LOL! LOL! I hope I can keep from laughing in the theater today!
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Postby Aleena » 18 May 2008, 01:24

Awww, man! It sounds even worse that I was thinking. I really don't care much to see it, but my 16 year old sister and her best friend want me to take them to it next week. :undecided:

You know, I sure hope that enough people make enough of a fuss that Adamson does a better job on the rest of the movies. I am terrified of what he could do to The Last Battle (if he gets that far).

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Postby rusmeister » 18 May 2008, 01:46

It's common knowledge already that Adamson is dropping out of the Narnia business (and a good thing, too, from what I've read here).

Hey Dan, you even got a laugh out of my wife with the "Princess Bride" allusion, and believe me, that's not easy! :smile:
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Postby Guest » 18 May 2008, 02:37

nomad wrote:The one thing I will have a very hard time forgiving is the missing romp scene. Why??? It would have translated marvelously to screen.


I think for the vast multitude of non-PC readers, the romp scene may have seemed odd and even silly at times. I think it went the way of Tom Bombadil.

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Postby Aleena » 18 May 2008, 02:59

rusmeister wrote:It's common knowledge already that Adamson is dropping out of the Narnia business (and a good thing, too, from what I've read here).


I did not know that until a couple of minutes ago. Since LWW was SO terrible (IMO) I really haven't been keeping up with the movie news-kind of don't care anymore. Even PJ did better with LOTR than AA with CoN. :undecided:
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Postby ArdenZ » 18 May 2008, 05:30

Sven wrote:
Dan65802 wrote:With the Spanish accents, I kept expecting Caspian to say, "Hello. My name is Prince Caspian. You killed my father. Prepare to die."


heh, heh. Perfect. If that had occurred to me, I would have counted Miraz's fingers...


In a number of interviews, Barnes actually said he watched The Princess Bride to get into his Spanish accent.
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Postby Pete » 18 May 2008, 06:29

Aleena wrote:Awww, man! It sounds even worse that I was thinking. I really don't care much to see it, but my 16 year old sister and her best friend want me to take them to it next week. :undecided:


I don't think it sounds half as bad as what some of the people here are making it sound... I'd encourage you to not be too swayed by this thread, Aleena, take the reviews with a grain of salt - just my advice. :wink:

Aleena wrote:You know, I sure hope that enough people make enough of a fuss that Adamson does a better job on the rest of the movies. I am terrified of what he could do to The Last Battle (if he gets that far).


This is Adamson's last directing of a Narnia movie for the present. :wink: Michael Apted is directing the next one. :smile:

Aleena wrote:I did not know that until a couple of minutes ago. Since LWW was SO terrible (IMO) I really haven't been keeping up with the movie news-kind of don't care anymore. Even PJ did better with LOTR than AA with CoN. :undecided:


Oh, I didn't know you had that reaction to LW&W! :stunned: Why did you think it was SO terrible? :??: I thought it was really very well done, very faithful to the book, that's why I trust Adamson's vision for this one, whilst I'm not too keen on a few of the well-known changes, what I've seen over all has confirmed to me that he really has captured the heart of the book, despite those changes. :idea:
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