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How can we know there is a God?

Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby postodave » February 15th, 2009, 10:38 am

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby agingjb » February 15th, 2009, 2:17 pm

I think that some distinction can be made between a truth that is self evident to someone that they can convey to another person and one that they cannot. I would say that learning elementary arithmetic and hearing of the experiences of the mystics are different.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby postodave » February 15th, 2009, 4:55 pm

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby Xara » February 15th, 2009, 8:20 pm

Experience: that most brutal of teachers.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby AllanS » February 15th, 2009, 8:31 pm

“And turn their grief into song?" he replied. "That would be a gracious act and a good beginning."

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby postodave » February 16th, 2009, 12:17 am

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby AllanS » February 16th, 2009, 3:52 am

I asked my kids at school if the number zero exists.

"Of course," they said.

Then I asked, "But how can nothing exist? If it exists, it must be something."

Ah, the look on their faces as the thought sunk in. Makes teaching worth the pain.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby Coyote Goodfellow » February 16th, 2009, 4:15 pm

"I don't care if it is wrong," said one of the moles. "I'd do it again."
"Hush, hush" said the other animals.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby mitchellmckain » February 16th, 2009, 9:21 pm

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby postodave » February 16th, 2009, 10:41 pm

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby Micah » February 17th, 2009, 4:20 am

"He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?" ~ Micah 6:8 (NKJV)
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby agingjb » February 17th, 2009, 9:45 am

I wish I'd never mentioned maths (arithmetic actually) as a restricted domain in which some sort of certainty was available. And let's just say that I'm glad that, when I was learning simple arithmetic, I wasn't confused by being presented with metaphysical concepts that would have challenged Plato.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby mitchellmckain » February 17th, 2009, 10:50 am

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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby postodave » February 17th, 2009, 12:10 pm

That's very clearly put Mitch and on the whole I agree. It's just that I have not found any of the arguments for God's necessary existence persuasive and neither have the majority of atheists. Take a look at the famous dialogue on proofs for God's existence between Russell and Coppleston for example.
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Re: How can we know there is a God?

Postby AllanS » February 17th, 2009, 9:09 pm

“And turn their grief into song?" he replied. "That would be a gracious act and a good beginning."

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