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Any universalists here?

Any universalists here?

Postby jo » March 14th, 2006, 12:15 pm

"I saw it begin,” said the Lord Digory. “I did not think I would live to see it die"

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Postby David Jack » March 14th, 2006, 12:42 pm

"This is and has been the Father’s work from the beginning-to bring us into the home of His heart.” George MacDonald.
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Postby jo » March 14th, 2006, 12:55 pm

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Postby Steve » March 14th, 2006, 12:56 pm

Psalm 139:17 How precious to me are your thoughts, God! How vast is the sum of them!
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Postby Karen » March 14th, 2006, 12:57 pm

I have always imagined that paradise will be a kind of library. -- Jorge Luis Borges
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Postby Robert » March 14th, 2006, 1:25 pm

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Postby jo » March 14th, 2006, 1:35 pm

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Postby alecto » March 14th, 2006, 5:50 pm

There are too many definitions of "Universalist", I think, Jo. Are we talking about the ones who believe God can and will save people of good will (like Emeth in The Last Battle) even though they explicitely deny Christ, are we talking about the ones who believe other faiths like Hinduism are actually different versions of the Truth filtered through other cultures, or are we talking about the ones who believe all people will be saved in the end, even Satan? I'm sure there's some I'm missing, too.

As for the question of denying God, I don't think many people would. It's just that in common practice, one person's accepting God may look like another person's disbelief, because of the different faiths out there. And of course, there's also Matthew 25:34-46, which makes clear that simply saying "I believe" is not enough anyway.
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Postby jo » March 14th, 2006, 5:53 pm

I mean people who believe all are saved, regardless :)
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Postby Genie » March 14th, 2006, 6:08 pm

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Postby Adam » March 14th, 2006, 6:21 pm

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Postby AllanS » March 14th, 2006, 11:25 pm

All will be saved when all repent of their sins and turn to God. But like Gollum, we find our sins too precious to leave behind.

So God gives us up to then. They torment us. The pain becomes unbearable. And then, at last, we cry out to God.

"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted."

Hell is the mourning before the morning.
“And turn their grief into song?" he replied. "That would be a gracious act and a good beginning."

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Postby David Jack » March 16th, 2006, 7:33 pm

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