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Into the Wardrobe A Community of Wardrobians 2010-09-30T23:59:28+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/feed.php 2010-09-30T23:59:28+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2391&p=207145#p207145 <![CDATA[The Chronicles of Narnia • A Simple Solution of 2456317]]>
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As I already posted nearby about an hour ago - The Going Away Party is in full swing. Jesus is also among the invited guests: ready - if necessary - to turn our water into wine. May we remain with him always. SHALOM Dear Friends!

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2010-09-30T22:53:11+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10165&p=207139#p207139 <![CDATA[The Great Divorce • Re: Chapter 3 - The Arrival]]>
Thanks for the discussion. Fair winds and following seas to all.

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2010-09-30T20:53:39+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10183&p=207128#p207128 <![CDATA[C. S. Lewis • Re: Lewis and democracy as seen on atheist forum]]> Statistics: Posted by postodave — 30 Sep 2010, 20:53


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2010-09-30T19:06:22+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10165&p=207112#p207112 <![CDATA[The Great Divorce • Re: Chapter 3 - The Arrival]]> Statistics: Posted by Nerd42 — 30 Sep 2010, 19:06


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2010-09-30T15:56:16+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10189&p=207103#p207103 <![CDATA[The Space Trilogy • Ransom's Revelation: This Can't Go On]]> Letters From God. The movie is about a child suffering from cancer who writes letters addressed simply to “God” and mails them via the U.S. Postal Service. As it turns out, God is outside even the reach of the U.S. Mail, so the story is about how others are touched by the things he writes in the letters. The movie overall was a bit sappy for my taste, but it started me thinking about some pretty terrible things; things such as children suffering from cancer, children homeless and starving, adults for that matter suffering from sickness that can’t be cured and from destitute poverty. And then there is the evil that mankind intentionally inflicts on one another, not just on the grand scope like war and oppression, but on the individual scope; abuse, rape, murder, etc.

I was reminded of the time I spent as a youth pastor. At one time, we had a boy in our youth group who suffered from leukemia. He had the best medical care available anywhere and won some victories against the disease, but they were temporary victories. When I would visit him in the local Children’s Hospital on the cancer wing, the horror and injustice of where I was would hit me fresh every time. The cancer wing of a Chidren’s hospital ! There shouldn’t be a need for such a place!! What a horrid world we live in where such a place is not only needed, but never lacks for occupants!

But that is just the tip of the iceberg. All over this world there are multiplied myriads of tales of suffering and horror inflicted upon on people of every age and background. From our doorstep to the other side of the planet, there are endless tales of anguish and torment being endured by multitudes.

And as these thoughts came to into my mind, another thought came as well; a thought pulled from the pages of Lewis’ Perelandra, a resounding clarion call that I think echoes in the back of our minds every day: “This can’t go on!” As Ransom saw the evil that was coming upon Perelandra from Weston’s constant tempting he had a revelation, an epiphany. He realized that some things are so vile, so evil, that they simply can not be allowed to continue, no matter what one must do to stop it. He realized, as if Maleldil were whispering it in his ear, “This can’t go on!”

And I wondered, have we heard the call so long and so often that we have become deaf to it? When we see people suffering from the evil that is in the world, whether it is the impersonal evil of disease and poverty, or the deliberate infliction of suffering by others, how often do we hear Maleldil’s call, “This can’t go on,” but push it aside? Maybe we don’t know what we can do. Maybe the task just seems too big. But I think that many times we hear the very call that Ransom heard, and just don’t know how to stop the evil we see.

A very long time ago our world had a king and a queen, and when Weston came in the form of a serpent there was no Ransom around to bash his head in with a rock. Now, we are left with an entire history filled with repeated pain and suffering and oppression. And yet, I still hear … I believe we all still hear … the same call. “This can’t go on!!”

On this, the Wardrobe forums’ last day, in memory of this great place and of our beloved Lewis, I pray that we can all hear this call, and to make it our own. I pray that each of us can let this call spring from our own heart and even our own lips. I hope that we can each see some suffering or injustice or evil which we personally can stop or mitigate, and that we can let that call come forth and become action; that we can say of something which we see before us, ”This can’t go on!!!”

Now, I know that there is far more suffering in this world than any one of us could ever put a dent in. But, I think each one of us could find one thing, one small area where we can personally make a difference. We can each find something we are passionate about. We can each search our hearts and … for those of us who believe this way, pray for guidance … to know what we can personally do to make a difference; to know what we can personally do to see to it that, in fact, this doesn't go on!!

Now, I don’t know what I’m going to do myself yet. These thoughts just came to me last night. But I know I must do something. I know it won’t be as simple as bashing someone’s head in with a rock, but I do know, “This can’t go on!”

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2010-09-29T22:10:17+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2391&p=207088#p207088 <![CDATA[The Chronicles of Narnia • Re: The 2456317 Club]]> is posted earlier in this thread, here it is once again for posterity's sake:

Published (2456317)

Published order, it’s you we can turn to
You give us something we can hold on to
Other people think that we’re stuck in the past
But it’s far more complicated than that


We all know the best order
We need to make the world see
You shouldn’t change the order

Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven

Published, published, you’re the way for me
We’re not sure why but you make us so happy
We wish they were ordered the way they should be
We rearrange every book from the entire set

We all know the best order
We need to make the world see
You shouldn’t change the order

Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven

We’ve done it (We’ve done it) We’ve done it
We’ve moved all the books around
We’ve done it (We’ve done it) We’ve done it
Now they’re placed the way that they should be

We all know the best order
We need to make the world see
How we love the best order

Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven

Published order it’s you we can turn to
(Two four five six three one seven)
But we have to search on Ebay just to find you
(Two four five six three one seven)

Two four five six three one seven
Two four five six three one seven
Six three one seven

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2010-09-29T12:48:09+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10183&p=207064#p207064 <![CDATA[C. S. Lewis • Re: Lewis and democracy as seen on atheist forum]]> Statistics: Posted by larry gilman — 29 Sep 2010, 12:48


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2010-09-29T11:07:51+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10188&p=207063#p207063 <![CDATA[The Space Trilogy • Spiritual Hrossa]]> Men without chests in The Abolition of Man he was refering to people who lacked a spiritual link between their guts and their brains. That's where the triad constuction comes in. I think of the Malacandran hnau as prototypes for our own Earthbound humanity. What each one of us should posses individualy, the Malacandrans appear to have collectively. And the Hrossa are the lynch pin to their existence.
What do the Hrossa do along the handramit where they live? When they are not risking their lives hunting down the hnakra, they spend their time dancing, singing and creating poetry. They are the "heart" or coer of the Malcandran hnau. They represent what makes life worth living. It's not fine craftmanship or studious ideas which inspire people to make the most out of life. It's the spirit behind our industry that justifies it. Divine spirit which directs our thoughts toward propper goals.
Lewis must have tried to suggest something when he made the hrossa appear as giant otters. It's the warm blooded mammal I suspect he wanted us to think of. The alien pfifltriggi lack the "humanity" of the hrossa. And the Seroni appear so far beyond what humans desire. The Hrossa have things "just right" because they link the physical and intellectual world with the spiritual.

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2010-09-29T10:17:38+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10188&p=207062#p207062 <![CDATA[The Space Trilogy • Intellectual Seroni]]> I wonder if maybe Lewis made a charicature of his own scholastic life with these beings. They do not seem at all practical on their own. Yet taken along side the other two Malacandran races, they complement one another. It's more than simply symbiosis. It's a spiritual need as well.

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2010-09-29T09:58:33+00:00 http://cslewis.drzeus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10188&p=207060#p207060 <![CDATA[The Space Trilogy • Physical Pfifltriggi]]> Out of the Silent Planet, they do play an important part. A sort of foundation for the other Malacandrans'. They are master artisans of all things material. Not content to create simple devices, they look for challleging inventions to manufacture. They belive that the artist who works with a certain material should also collect that material just so he has an appreciation for it. Thus pfifltrig goldsmith's go down into mines just to see for themselves how "sun's blood" in collected. Yet oddly enough, being an unfallen race, they do not hoard these artifacts, but share them with other hnau.
For some reason, Lewis does not have Ransom journey through a pfifltrigg city. I found this strange since in such a city unique architecture and Malacandran technology could certainly be found. So why not? I suspect that Lewis wanted to minimise science fiction hardware in this book and focus on the unfallen people and their leader, the Oyarsa.
The pfifltriggi live under a matriarchy because they have much regard for the females of their race.
They appear to represent the best of physical nature untouched by original sin.

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