Protestants welcome… a fictional dialogue.

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No, I mean He tells me their inspired.

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LOL

There, Wolf!

Okay, do you mean, "Does He tell me in my head?"

That would be a little too simplistic. Yes He does but empathic communication is involved also. The Holy Spirit is a little like Aristotle. He teaches peripetetically. He discusses things with you as you walk with Him, but He also points things out that illustrate what He says. It's a holistic communication.

Does he talk to me verbally? Yes, but probably less than He would to a normal human. My primary mode of communication is empathy, so I suspect he empathizes more to me than He would to some other persons. I'm just guessing that He's flexible enough to fit His methods to the person He's interacting with.

And does he meet with me in Dreamtime? No, He's never appeared to me visually. I've never thought to ask that of Him. I know people who have seen Him though and am fairly convinced that they're telling the truth.

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Of course you can check my experience. You can see if you can replicate it in your own life. That's the only way you can really know anything anyway. Taking other people's word for things - you'll never actually know.

With esoteric knowledge, you have to be a part of some select group to know. This isn't esoteric.

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::Of course you can check my experience. You can see if you can replicate it in your own life. That's the only way you can really know anything anyway. Taking other people's word for things - you'll never actually know.
::With esoteric knowledge, you have to be a part of some select group to know. This isn't esoteric.

I think you're putting the cart before the horse. It's private, experiential knowledge -- knowledge which cannot be checked against public revelation (like the Bible) -- that makes one part of a select group. Many esoteric religions claim that their secret knowledge is potentially available to all, if only all would experience it: just like you're claiming. Exoteric religions -- that is, revealed religions (Christianity, Islam and Judaism) -- claim that there's a basis for testing experience in dogmas and creeds which express revelation in abstract terms -- that is, we judge private revelations in terms of public revelation -- the advanced orthodox Christian mystics, such as John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila, insist that is how one tells false revelation from true.

Let me give you an example. There was a lady a few years back, going by the name Dina, who insisted that her understanding was illuminated by the Holy Spirit whilst reading Scripture one day; she insisted that she was shown, for a fact, that the doctrine of eternal hell was absolutely false. Hey, guess what, I want that doctrine to be false, so should I seek the same illumination? I think that is YOUR criteria Wolf, a completely subjective one... one which invites the Joseph Smith's and the Mohamads of the world to know better than everyone else and to teach their experienced knowledge...

Jesse

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