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The witch's claim on Edmund

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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Erekose » December 18th, 2005, 6:26 pm

Inconsistancies aren't always that.

Sometimes they are the means to expand on a story. Remember that when a character speaks in a book, they don't necessarily know all the facts themselves, or even speak the truth, exactly as in the real world.

/me cowers as he suggests a reconcilliation to the Inconsistancy envisaged by The Great Wonderous One.

Jadis may SAY she doesn't know of Portals to other Worlds, but then, she may be desiring to kee the fact that she does know of such things to herself. And only when it becomes necessary for Edmund to know how to return, does she find herself faced with having to admit to her previous lie, and hope that Edmund does not realise it.

Also, it could mean that she doesn't know that other portals are in existance. That theone near the Lampost is unknown to her, and only after consider Edmunds story, does she come to recognise its existance at that time, and also identify its location.

/me the Heretic skulks away into the shadows
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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Homba » December 18th, 2005, 7:36 pm

I wrote a good deal on the issue of Jadis's claim on Edmund in at Narniaweb.com. It is a very thorough discussion if you are interested. I concluded that Lewis reimagined and significantly developed the character of Jadis in MN, and there are necessarily inconsistencies to the earlier portrayal in LWW.

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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Erekose » December 18th, 2005, 7:42 pm

its a question of how one defines differences in narrative history.

Some seem differences as inconsitancies/errors

I see them as unexplored avenues of narrative.

And never the twain shall meet 8-D (Hence my Heretical Stance)
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Re: re: The witch's claim on Edmund

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Re: re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Erekose » December 19th, 2005, 12:17 am

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Postby Erekose » December 19th, 2005, 1:16 am

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Re: re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Messenger_of_Eden » December 19th, 2005, 5:46 am

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself."--St. Augustine of Hippo
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Re: re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby Messenger_of_Eden » December 19th, 2005, 5:52 am

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself."--St. Augustine of Hippo
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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby robsia » December 19th, 2005, 9:06 pm

^Yes, I am sure I remember there being something magical in the Turkish Delight, not just the fact that it was created by magic.

Is there anyone who ahs a copy to hand to verify this?
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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby j0n4th4n » December 24th, 2005, 11:20 pm

I f I remember rightly the turkish delight made him want to eat more and more and it says that anyone who had eaten that 'enchanted turkish delight' would go on eating if no-one stopped them until it killed them. of course, if you eat an evil witch's food it will have an adverse affect on you, however bad you where before.
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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby carol » December 25th, 2005, 10:58 am

The book says:

" she knew, although Edmund did not, that this was enchanted turkish delight, and that anyone who had tasted it would want more and more of it,..."

So it is addictive, and once a person is addicted to something, it changes their decision-making process to be focussed on getting more of it. Edmund's conscience became rather poor at this point, I think.

Mr Beaver says,"He had the look of one who has been with the Witch and eaten her food". - something shows in their faces?

What other effects did it have, I wonder?
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re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby wood-maid » December 27th, 2005, 2:10 am

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Re: re: The witch's claim on Edmund

Postby loeee » December 27th, 2005, 6:52 pm

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